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16254Re: [S-R] Marriages between different religions

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  • Carl Kotlarchik
    Dec 17, 2006
      Thank you for the replies.
      Janet, to answer your question, the Catholic family name was Szabados
      and they lived in Kun Tapolcza (now Kunova Teplica). The Lutheran
      family name was Vapenik and they lived in Kisgencs which is sometimes
      just called Gencs and is today called Honce. But the marriages
      occurred in the Lutheran Church in Csetnek (Stitnik). There is not a
      Catholic Church in Kun Taplolcza but I checked and there is one in
      Csetnek. (This is when I really miss not having the Dvorszak
      Gazetteer on line anymore.) So, I think I will order the Catholic
      films for Csetnek and see if some of the children were baptized in
      that church.

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@...>
      > Dear Carl,
      > Menyasszony simply means bride in Hungarian.
      > Although mixed marriages were not the norm, we see plenty of them
      in the
      > records. Sometimes the family chose to baptize sons in the father's
      > and daughters in the mother's. (I know personally of one instance
      where this
      > is still done today.) Occasionally you will see lists of
      conversions in the
      > church records, so this must have happened in some cases, but there
      > probably many where there was no conversion and the husband and
      wife kept
      > their traditional religions.
      > Bear in mind also that the religion of the godparents may be
      different, and
      > the child may be baptized in their church. (The baby was taken to
      the church
      > for baptism by the godmother.) However, the religion of the child,
      > different from the godparents, would be noted.
      > You have not noted what village you are looking at. I presume that
      it had
      > only a Lutheran church. You may need to identify the closest Roman
      > church to find the missing entries.
      > Janet
      > _____
      > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-
      ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of Carl Kotlarchik
      > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:32 PM
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [S-R] Marriages between different religions
      > Does anyone know if people of different religions ever got married
      > both of their churches? I have a set of ancestors where the husband
      > was Lutheran and the wife was Roman Catholic. They were married in
      > the Lutheran Church in 1848 but I cannot find any baptism records
      > their children in that Church. However, I do find the marriages of
      > their children in that same church and it lists them as the
      > So, the family must have stayed there. The parent's marriage record
      > says the bride was a "hajadon" or unmarried woman. But it also has
      > note on the far right which says "a memyasszony r. Kathliky _____
      > hazassag vegyes". I think this says that the bride was Roman
      > Catholic and this is a mixed marriage. Would she have been able to
      > retain her religion or would she have had to convert? Since I can't
      > find the baptism records for their children, I'm wondering if they
      > possibly had them baptized as R. Catholics.
      > The reason I'm trying to understand this is because I cannot find
      > baptism or death records for their daughter (my great-grandmother).
      > However, she was married in the same Lutheran Church as her parents
      > and all three of her children were baptized there (1870s). Two
      > children died and their deaths are also recorded in Church records.
      > The family story is that my great-grandmother also died during the
      > birth of the third child but her death is not recorded in these
      > Church records (1870-1895). So, is it possible that she was
      > as a R. Catholic and that her baptism and death records might be in
      > some nearby Catholic church?
      > I'd appreciate any thoughts any of you might have on this.
      > CK
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