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  • fto686
    I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning on just going for the day right,
    Message 1 of 23 , Mar 1, 2005
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      I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I
      could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning on
      just going for the day right, no staying over?

      -Erin




      --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
      >
      > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
      week.
      > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an hour
      and
      > 15 minutes, Hallsville). The event has _no_ site fee.
      >
      > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that exists
      in
      > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
      >
      > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if it's
      sold
      > out yet or not. Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
      place
      > nearby to eat. Why? After the event there's a Royal Ball.
      >
      > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and there's
      a
      > ball being held after a coronation. I might suggest that _anyone_
      in
      > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing before
      our
      > upcoming symposium, attend this.
      >
      > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I believe
      > the Ball as well. I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
      (that I
      > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
      >
      > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
      AWESOME
      > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
      >
      > -Roberto
    • Chris Lewis
      I m all for saying okay. Our car will pull out Saturday morning and come back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of the ball. -Roberto ...
      Message 2 of 23 , Mar 1, 2005
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        I'm all for saying okay. Our car will pull out Saturday morning and come
        back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of the ball.

        -Roberto

        -----Original Message-----
        From: fto686 [mailto:fto686@...]
        Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:45 PM
        To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Re: Coronation



        I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I
        could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning on
        just going for the day right, no staying over?

        -Erin




        --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
        >
        > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
        week.
        > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an hour
        and
        > 15 minutes, Hallsville). The event has _no_ site fee.
        >
        > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that exists
        in
        > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
        >
        > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if it's
        sold
        > out yet or not. Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
        place
        > nearby to eat. Why? After the event there's a Royal Ball.
        >
        > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and there's
        a
        > ball being held after a coronation. I might suggest that _anyone_
        in
        > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing before
        our
        > upcoming symposium, attend this.
        >
        > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I believe
        > the Ball as well. I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
        (that I
        > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
        >
        > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
        AWESOME
        > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
        >
        > -Roberto







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      • fto686
        Cool! So is it okay if I ride with you? ... and come ... ball. ... exists ... there s ... _anyone_ ... before ... believe
        Message 3 of 23 , Mar 2, 2005
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          Cool! So is it okay if I ride with you?


          --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lewis"
          <pretzelbear@s...> wrote:
          > I'm all for saying okay. Our car will pull out Saturday morning
          and come
          > back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of the
          ball.
          >
          > -Roberto
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: fto686 [mailto:fto686@c...]
          > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:45 PM
          > To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Re: Coronation
          >
          >
          >
          > I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I
          > could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning on
          > just going for the day right, no staying over?
          >
          > -Erin
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
          > >
          > > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
          > week.
          > > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an hour
          > and
          > > 15 minutes, Hallsville). The event has _no_ site fee.
          > >
          > > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that
          exists
          > in
          > > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
          > >
          > > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if it's
          > sold
          > > out yet or not. Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
          > place
          > > nearby to eat. Why? After the event there's a Royal Ball.
          > >
          > > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and
          there's
          > a
          > > ball being held after a coronation. I might suggest that
          _anyone_
          > in
          > > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing
          before
          > our
          > > upcoming symposium, attend this.
          > >
          > > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I
          believe
          > > the Ball as well. I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
          > (that I
          > > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
          > >
          > > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
          > AWESOME
          > > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
          > >
          > > -Roberto
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • Debbie Sullentrup
          Ridding with us would be good, but could I ask which Erin are we talking to. There is the Erin Ropper and the gamer girl Erin... I am 75% sure you are Ropper,
          Message 4 of 23 , Mar 2, 2005
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            Ridding with us would be good, but could I ask which Erin are we talking to.  There is the Erin Ropper and the gamer girl Erin... I am 75% sure you are Ropper, but i could be wrong.  ~helena~

            fto686 <fto686@...> wrote:

            Cool!  So is it okay if I ride with you?


            --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lewis"
            <pretzelbear@s...> wrote:
            > I'm all for saying okay.  Our car will pull out Saturday morning
            and come
            > back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of the
            ball.
            >
            > -Roberto
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: fto686 [mailto:fto686@c...]
            > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:45 PM
            > To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Re: Coronation
            >
            >
            >
            > I would really like to go to Coronation.  Is it possible that I
            > could get a ride with someone?  Most of you guys are planning on
            > just going for the day right, no staying over?
            >
            > -Erin
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
            > >
            > > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
            > week. 
            > > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an hour
            > and
            > > 15 minutes, Hallsville).  The event has _no_ site fee.
            > >
            > > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that
            exists
            > in
            > > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
            > >
            > > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if it's
            > sold
            > > out yet or not.  Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
            > place
            > > nearby to eat.  Why?  After the event there's a Royal Ball.
            > >
            > > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and
            there's
            > a
            > > ball being held after a coronation.  I might suggest that
            _anyone_
            > in
            > > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing
            before
            > our
            > > upcoming symposium, attend this.
            > >
            > > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I
            believe
            > > the Ball as well.  I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
            > (that I
            > > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
            > >
            > > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
            > AWESOME
            > > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
            > >
            > > -Roberto
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >

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          • fto686
            Yeah, this is Erin Roper. But acutally I found out today that I can t go :( I have to help out with the Student Visit Day this weekend since I am a tour
            Message 5 of 23 , Mar 2, 2005
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              Yeah, this is Erin Roper. But acutally I found out today that I
              can't go :( I have to help out with the Student Visit Day this
              weekend since I am a tour guide. Thanks though, and I hope there is
              another event soon. I really wanted to go :(

              -Erin



              --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, Debbie Sullentrup
              <kell100312@y...> wrote:
              > Ridding with us would be good, but could I ask which Erin are we
              talking to. There is the Erin Ropper and the gamer girl Erin... I
              am 75% sure you are Ropper, but i could be wrong. ~helena~
              >
              > fto686 <fto686@c...> wrote:
              > Cool! So is it okay if I ride with you?
              >
              >
              > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lewis"
              > <pretzelbear@s...> wrote:
              > > I'm all for saying okay. Our car will pull out Saturday morning
              > and come
              > > back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of
              the
              > ball.
              > >
              > > -Roberto
              > >
              > > -----Original Message-----
              > > From: fto686 [mailto:fto686@c...]
              > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:45 PM
              > > To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Re: Coronation
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I
              > > could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning on
              > > just going for the day right, no staying over?
              > >
              > > -Erin
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
              > > week.
              > > > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an
              hour
              > > and
              > > > 15 minutes, Hallsville). The event has _no_ site fee.
              > > >
              > > > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that
              > exists
              > > in
              > > > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
              > > >
              > > > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if
              it's
              > > sold
              > > > out yet or not. Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
              > > place
              > > > nearby to eat. Why? After the event there's a Royal Ball.
              > > >
              > > > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and
              > there's
              > > a
              > > > ball being held after a coronation. I might suggest that
              > _anyone_
              > > in
              > > > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing
              > before
              > > our
              > > > upcoming symposium, attend this.
              > > >
              > > > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I
              > believe
              > > > the Ball as well. I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
              > > (that I
              > > > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
              > > >
              > > > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
              > > AWESOME
              > > > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
              > > >
              > > > -Roberto
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
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              >
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            • pretzelbear@sbcglobal.net
              I am sorry to hear you can t make it. And I don t know if we ll hit any more in March - the month is kind of up in the air, and I ve been sick enough that I
              Message 6 of 23 , Mar 2, 2005
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                I am sorry to hear you can't make it. And I don't know if we'll hit
                any more in March - the month is kind of up in the air, and I've been
                sick enough that I can't think right now.

                However, don't forget that April 2nd we are holding an event here.
                It will be a Heraldic, Scribal, and Dance Symposium. There are a
                good number of classes being lined up and we can use all the help we
                can get making this event run smoothly. So if you can't get to an
                event before that, you can at least have fun with us here.

                -Roberto

                --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, "fto686" <fto686@c...> wrote:
                >
                > Yeah, this is Erin Roper. But acutally I found out today that I
                > can't go :( I have to help out with the Student Visit Day this
                > weekend since I am a tour guide. Thanks though, and I hope there
                is
                > another event soon. I really wanted to go :(
                >
                > -Erin
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, Debbie Sullentrup
                > <kell100312@y...> wrote:
                > > Ridding with us would be good, but could I ask which Erin are we
                > talking to. There is the Erin Ropper and the gamer girl Erin... I
                > am 75% sure you are Ropper, but i could be wrong. ~helena~
                > >
                > > fto686 <fto686@c...> wrote:
                > > Cool! So is it okay if I ride with you?
                > >
                > >
                > > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lewis"
                > > <pretzelbear@s...> wrote:
                > > > I'm all for saying okay. Our car will pull out Saturday
                morning
                > > and come
                > > > back Saturday night, but I kinda wanna stay around for some of
                > the
                > > ball.
                > > >
                > > > -Roberto
                > > >
                > > > -----Original Message-----
                > > > From: fto686 [mailto:fto686@c...]
                > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:45 PM
                > > > To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
                > > > Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Re: Coronation
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > I would really like to go to Coronation. Is it possible that I
                > > > could get a ride with someone? Most of you guys are planning
                on
                > > > just going for the day right, no staying over?
                > > >
                > > > -Erin
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > --- In SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com, pretzelbear@s... wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > Coronation ofor our next King and Queen is at the end of this
                > > > week.
                > > > > It is but an hour and a half south of us (actually about an
                > hour
                > > > and
                > > > > 15 minutes, Hallsville). The event has _no_ site fee.
                > > > >
                > > > > So, we have one of the most pageantry involved events that
                > > exists
                > > > in
                > > > > the SCA and it has no site fee to attend.
                > > > >
                > > > > There is a feast, and it is only $7.00 but I don't know if
                > it's
                > > > sold
                > > > > out yet or not. Even if it's sold out, I think we can find a
                > > > place
                > > > > nearby to eat. Why? After the event there's a Royal Ball.
                > > > >
                > > > > That's right, just 1 month before our dance symposium, and
                > > there's
                > > > a
                > > > > ball being held after a coronation. I might suggest that
                > > _anyone_
                > > > in
                > > > > this group who enjoys, or wants to know more about dancing
                > > before
                > > > our
                > > > > upcoming symposium, attend this.
                > > > >
                > > > > Myself and my dear lady will be attending the event, and I
                > > believe
                > > > > the Ball as well. I also will be hoping to arrange a meeting
                > > > (that I
                > > > > hope Leonetta can attend) about the dancing at the symposium.
                > > > >
                > > > > So, everyone, let's continue impressing the kingdom, and have
                > > > AWESOME
                > > > > attendance for an event that's only just over an hour from us.
                > > > >
                > > > > -Roberto
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
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              • Katherine Schneider
                Lady Esa and I will be driving up, but we will not be staying for feast due to prior comitments. ~Alessandra ... ... ... yay ... ...
                Message 7 of 23 , Mar 3, 2005
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                  Lady Esa and I will be driving up, but we will not be staying for feast
                  due to prior comitments.

                  ~Alessandra


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                  <BR>
                  >phone number I have.  As far as Kat and Jennifer go can you post
                  yay <BR>
                  >or nay before Friday night ends?)<BR>
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                  <BR>
                  >for dinner and potentially paying 10 bucks a piece or so, I managed <BR>
                  >to get us feast reservations so everyone bring 7 dollars for dinner,
                  <BR>
                  >and we get to share a delicious SCA feast.  Not a bad price, all
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                • pretzelbear@sbcglobal.net
                  I hope the ladies who went to Coronation has as much fun as I did during the day. You all didn t miss the populace swearing fealty by much, court started about
                  Message 8 of 23 , Mar 7, 2005
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                    I hope the ladies who went to Coronation has as much fun as I did
                    during the day.

                    You all didn't miss the populace swearing fealty by much, court
                    started about 15 minutes after you were out the door, and was only
                    about a half hour long.

                    Feast, however, wasn't worth being at. The food was okay (at least
                    the parts we stayed for). Some of it was overcooked, but not _too_
                    badly.

                    the major problem was in the presentation. they only had enough
                    serving dishes for about half of a remove, maybe a full remove, at a
                    time. So there was 30+ minutes between each remove while they
                    gathered the serving dishes, and washed them to reuse them.

                    I will make this note to any aspiring feast-o-crats in our group. If
                    you are going to do a feast, make sure you have enough dishes to
                    serve at least half of the feast at once. Preferably all of it
                    without having to re-use. The reason for the latter suggestion is
                    once you have things coming in dirty, people can start washing it
                    off, and putting it away - saving time in the long run. But the main
                    thing is, if you have to reuse a dish, don't count on having it back
                    from one remove, to use on the next. It doesn't work.

                    Anyway, wanted to let you all know you didn't miss much by not doing
                    feast this time, and probably did yourselves a favor.

                    If anyone ends up going to the Round Table event in Forgotten Sea in
                    May, the feast there should be most definitely worth eating. I have
                    an inside scoup on it.

                    -Roberto
                  • otsisto
                    I have thought this over and wish to reply to this. ... Roberto: Feast, however, wasn t worth being at. The food was okay (at least the parts we stayed for).
                    Message 9 of 23 , Mar 14, 2005
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                      I have thought this over and wish to reply to this.

                      -----Original Message-----
                      Roberto: Feast, however, wasn't worth being at. The food was okay (at least
                      the parts we stayed for). Some of it was overcooked, but not _too_
                      badly.

                      *Perhaps the chicken was a bit over done but the roast beef was still
                      reddish in the middle.

                      Roberto: the major problem was in the presentation. they only had enough
                      serving dishes for about half of a remove, maybe a full remove, at a
                      time. So there was 30+ minutes between each remove while they
                      gathered the serving dishes, and washed them to reuse them.

                      *There was enough for a full remove and it was 15 minutes or less, for if it
                      happened according to your time you would have still been feasting there at
                      midnight. Court started late and some brilliant individual found that there
                      were two more tables and thus adding 16 more people.

                      Roberto: I will make this note to any aspiring feast-o-crats in our group.
                      If
                      you are going to do a feast, make sure you have enough dishes to
                      serve at least half of the feast at once.

                      * This is good advice. A feast steward needs to make sure that he/she has
                      sufficient serving ware or arrange so that removes are paced with the
                      serving ware so that there isn't an interruption in the flow of serving.

                      Roberto: Preferably all of it without having to re-use. The reason for the
                      latter suggestion is once you have things coming in dirty, people can start
                      washing it off, and putting it away - saving time in the long run. But the
                      main
                      thing is, if you have to reuse a dish, don't count on having it back
                      from one remove, to use on the next. It doesn't work.

                      *Small shires do not always have the income to spend on period or periodish
                      serving ware, they do their best.
                      It would have helped matters if the water heater had not blown a fuse and
                      thus leaving no hot water outside of the Hobard.

                      Tips for future Feast Stewards,
                      Line the roasting pans and sheets with aluminum foil.
                      Know your site in advance.
                      Learn what they have and don't have and then fill in from there.
                      If you can prepare some of the food items in advance of the day of the
                      event, do so.
                      Make sure at least one dish on the menu is simple. Side dish of beans,
                      cooked carrots, broccoli, Roast beef...etc. (bread, cheese and fruit do not
                      count as the simple dish, sorry)

                      <<Anyway, wanted to let you all know you didn't miss much by not doing
                      feast this time, and probably did yourselves a favor.

                      If anyone ends up going to the Round Table event in Forgotten Sea in
                      May, the feast there should be most definitely worth eating. I have
                      an inside scoup on it.

                      -Roberto

                      Even a Barony can have a bad feast. You won't know till the day of the
                      feast.

                      If you are interested in Medieval and renaissance cooking you may want to
                      join

                      SCAFoodandFeasts@yahoogroups.com
                      and/or
                      CaontirCooksGuild@yahoogroups.com

                      Thank you for reading,
                      Lyse
                    • pretzelbear@sbcglobal.net
                      My reply to this is not to be picky, and I will try to keep it cleaned up as I can, however my purpose in replying to this is two fold. 1) To help the
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                        My reply to this is not to be picky, and I will try to keep it
                        cleaned up as I can, however my purpose in replying to this is two
                        fold. 1) To help the bellewode students and members learn a bit from
                        my experience in the SCA, and 2) hopefully pass on some knowledge
                        from my time in the SCA, and the 7 years I spent working at feast at
                        every event I went to, to help our neighbor Amliss Moore.

                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > Roberto: Feast, however, wasn't worth being at. The food was okay
                        (at least
                        > the parts we stayed for). Some of it was overcooked, but not _too_
                        > badly.
                        >
                        > *Perhaps the chicken was a bit over done but the roast beef was
                        still
                        > reddish in the middle.

                        Unfortunately, due to the timing, I was gone before the beef was
                        served. And if I had been served 'pink in the middle' beef, I may
                        not have eaten it, depending on the level of pinkness. My first
                        feast in the SCA involved some roast beef, and in the end we had 3
                        levels of doneness, and tried to give each table a mix of the 'done',
                        and the 'pinkish', and the 'definitely pink in the middle' meats. If
                        anyone was unhappy with the meat available, we tried to suit them
                        with specific requests. It didn't work out as we hoped, and we
                        learned then that serving meat 'well done' (NOTE: Welldone does not
                        mean charred, or dried out. It is very possible to make meat fully
                        cooked, and leave it juicy and tender - I do it all the time when I
                        make meat for myself at home) as fewer people will not eat tender
                        juicy fully cooked meat, than won't touch meat they find questionable
                        or underdone. Also, using red food coloring on meat to make a joke,
                        is _never_ a good idea. I learned that from the same friend, at a
                        different feast.

                        The chicken was a bit dry, and the pork pies were a bit overcooked.
                        My major problem with the food wasn't the doneness, tho I heard a lot
                        of people grumbling quietly and politely about it, but it was the
                        fact that it was cold. If chicken is served whole, then it should be
                        served whole and still warm so it's easier to cut. If it's going to
                        be cold (and some recipies call for it) it really should be pre-cut
                        up, to remove the need to make feast guests work for their food, so
                        to speak.

                        I found the pork pie tasty, and wished there had been more of it, but
                        even half of mine was dry, and required a bit more water to drink
                        with it, than I prefer. but the flavors were very good. However,
                        this is not the kind of thing an inexperienced feast goer should
                        experience at one of their first feasts. I am not saying feast was
                        horrible. I am saying, that having the extensive feast background I
                        have, it was 'wanting' for something.

                        >
                        > Roberto: the major problem was in the presentation. they only had
                        enough
                        > serving dishes for about half of a remove, maybe a full remove, at a
                        > time. So there was 30+ minutes between each remove while they
                        > gathered the serving dishes, and washed them to reuse them.
                        >
                        > *There was enough for a full remove and it was 15 minutes or less,
                        for if it
                        > happened according to your time you would have still been feasting
                        there at
                        > midnight. Court started late and some brilliant individual found
                        that there
                        > were two more tables and thus adding 16 more people.

                        Actually, there was enough time between removes that we ate (10
                        minutes), got up and walked around, went to the bathroom, and in
                        general got bored. And I left at 10 pm (2 hours into feast?) and the
                        pork pie had only been on the table for 10 minutes. People were
                        waiting until around 10:15 or later for the beef. I am not being
                        overly critical here, but I am stating fact. It may have only been
                        25 minutes, but it definitely wasn't 15 - because even at my worst I
                        can't lose total focus and lack of entertainment in 15 minutes,
                        especially with food to eat. Granted this wasn't the most time
                        consuming feast I have been at. I have been at one that was a 3 hour
                        feast. But it had 8 removes, and they kept enough entertainment
                        arranged to have 2 preformances between servings. It may have been
                        timed well and just not had enough entertainment. That's possible.
                        But I am unsure on that.

                        As adding the 16 more people (2 tables) that sounds like someone and
                        your feast-o-crat needed to have a talk well beforehand. Adding
                        tables last minute should be the feast steward's job, noone else's.
                        As that can ruin the best laid plans.

                        >
                        > Roberto: I will make this note to any aspiring feast-o-crats in our
                        group.
                        > If
                        > you are going to do a feast, make sure you have enough dishes to
                        > serve at least half of the feast at once.
                        >
                        > * This is good advice. A feast steward needs to make sure that
                        he/she has
                        > sufficient serving ware or arrange so that removes are paced with
                        the
                        > serving ware so that there isn't an interruption in the flow of
                        serving.
                        >

                        That's actually what all of my suggestions center around.
                        Interruption of flow, or poor flow, kill a feast. And as I stated
                        above, the flow of this feast was not exactly stellar. Now, for the
                        first feast for a 'new' group (not knowing if they have had any while
                        being incipient) I will say that I was not so upset as to not give
                        them a chance in the future. But I will be cautious in the future
                        when I give more chances. I actually look forward to the next feast
                        held in Amliss Moore as I think it will go off much better, the group
                        having learned some very good lessons.

                        > Roberto: Preferably all of it without having to re-use. The reason
                        for the
                        > latter suggestion is once you have things coming in dirty, people
                        can start
                        > washing it off, and putting it away - saving time in the long run.
                        But the
                        > main
                        > thing is, if you have to reuse a dish, don't count on having it back
                        > from one remove, to use on the next. It doesn't work.
                        >
                        > *Small shires do not always have the income to spend on period or
                        periodish
                        > serving ware, they do their best.
                        > It would have helped matters if the water heater had not blown a
                        fuse and
                        > thus leaving no hot water outside of the Hobard.
                        >

                        All any group can do, is do their best. However, I do not consider
                        Amliss Moore a small shire, judging from the number of people that
                        went up to receive acolade of full group status. I would definitely
                        call your shire a medium sized shire. Now, I will admit it's a
                        fairly young group, but you also have a lot of resources at hand. By
                        that, I mean you have Standing Stones just a stones throw (no pun
                        intended?) from you, and I know they are willing to help out however
                        they can. Heck, we have had the offers of help from both of you. I
                        do not know if you took them up on it or not, and if not I would
                        strongly encourage you to do so in the future, and if you did, then
                        this part of the conversation is moot. A hot water heater blowing up
                        is an uncontrollable condition, but if this was to be taken into
                        consideration as a reason for the flow of feast being affected, I
                        would have had it announced that due to 'technical difficulties with
                        those that deliver the water from the heating pots to the washing
                        pots, feast was going to move a bit slower as they had to wash some
                        stuff slowly", then people could have taken it into account, but with
                        no announcement by the time I left (just after 10), I could not act
                        with that information.

                        > Tips for future Feast Stewards,
                        > Line the roasting pans and sheets with aluminum foil.
                        > Know your site in advance.
                        > Learn what they have and don't have and then fill in from there.
                        > If you can prepare some of the food items in advance of the day of
                        the
                        > event, do so.
                        > Make sure at least one dish on the menu is simple. Side dish of
                        beans,
                        > cooked carrots, broccoli, Roast beef...etc. (bread, cheese and
                        fruit do not
                        > count as the simple dish, sorry)
                        >

                        These are some _wonderful_ suggestions. I strongly reccommend that
                        every feast steward have 1 meat dish and 1 vegetarian dish in every
                        remove, and if you have to prep with mushrooms, make sure they are
                        well announced, or made aside from the dish they are augmenting. But
                        I know a lot of people with mushroom allergies, and a lot of vegans
                        in the SCA. I personally am not allergic to mushrooms, but they make
                        me cringe uncontrollably. The aluminum foil tip is priceless, and
                        has saved many a feast. In general I reccomend any dish that can be
                        reheated, or served cold, prepped in advance, anything that is best
                        served hot, and fresh, be cooked day of. And chickens should be
                        cooked as in advance as is possible, and then stored in a way to keep
                        them warm, and juicy. I have had too many chickens leave a kitchen
                        dry, and at one feast there were some that were sent out prematurely
                        becuase they had oven troubles. Never serve undercooked chicken.

                        > <<Anyway, wanted to let you all know you didn't miss much by not
                        doing
                        > feast this time, and probably did yourselves a favor.
                        >
                        > If anyone ends up going to the Round Table event in Forgotten Sea in
                        > May, the feast there should be most definitely worth eating. I have
                        > an inside scoup on it.
                        >
                        > -Roberto
                        >
                        > Even a Barony can have a bad feast. You won't know till the day of
                        the
                        > feast.
                        >

                        This is true, anyone can have a bad feast. But I have been receiving
                        samples from this upcoming feast at this event, and know the cook.
                        They are fully prepped for a day of outdoor cooking, and the menu is
                        scrumptious.

                        Thank you for responding to the email, and even for pointing out
                        things like the water heater. And as I have said, I am not against
                        Amliss Moore in anyway, I am just glad that I don't know of any first
                        time feasters who may have been disillusioned. And I hope these
                        words can be helpful to all those involved. I am looking forward to
                        my next chance to feast with you all.

                        -Roberto
                      • otsisto
                        ... My reply to this is not to be picky, and I will try to keep it cleaned up as I can, however my purpose in replying to this is two fold. 1) To help the
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                          -----Original Message-----
                          My reply to this is not to be picky, and I will try to keep it
                          cleaned up as I can, however my purpose in replying to this is two
                          fold. 1) To help the bellewode students and members learn a bit from
                          my experience in the SCA, and 2) hopefully pass on some knowledge
                          from my time in the SCA, and the 7 years I spent working at feast at
                          every event I went to, to help our neighbor Amliss Moore.

                          *My apology as some of the original email came across a bit catty, which is
                          why I waited in replying.

                          Unfortunately, due to the timing, I was gone before the beef was
                          served. ... Also, using red food coloring on meat to make a joke,
                          is _never_ a good idea.

                          *Some subtleties just don't go over well. :)

                          The chicken was a bit dry, and the pork pies were a bit overcooked.
                          My major problem with the food wasn't the doneness, tho I heard a lot
                          of people grumbling quietly and politely about it, but it was the
                          fact that it was cold.

                          I found the pork pie tasty, and wished there had been more of it, but
                          even half of mine was dry, and required a bit more water to drink
                          with it, than I prefer. but the flavors were very good. ........... I am
                          not saying feast was horrible. I am saying, that having the extensive feast
                          background I
                          have, it was 'wanting' for something.

                          * I had forgot about the pies, The person in charge of baking the pies
                          didn't keep a good watch.
                          As for the cold food, I don't know about whether the chicken was to be cold
                          or not but the warming oven apparently was on the same fuse as the hot water
                          heaters. :P
                          But you are correct about cutting the meat up. People are usually tired and
                          hungry and having to wrestle a chicken is the last thing they want to do.

                          Coronation was put on by 3 Shires. Amlesmore (Laurel for some reason did not
                          receive the docs. and so recommended the lispy name), Standing Stones, and
                          Wyvern Cliff. The feast steward was from Wyvern Cliffs and has had
                          experience as a feast steward. Decor and the main planning was SS, and site
                          was AM.

                          Personally there were things I would have done different with feast and the
                          running of the kitchen but I was not in a position to say or dictate. It
                          would have been rude.
                          I have learned that if there is an event with 2 or more groups working on it
                          that there needs to be a better open line of communications.

                          AM has been around for 3 years and last year put on their first event, War
                          College.
                          Hopefully we will learn from what went wrong and what went right at
                          Coronation for future events.

                          Final note: anyone who volunteers to become an Autocrat or Feast Steward,
                          learn to delegate and learn to include others in the process.
                          Being the Feast Steward does not mean you cook everything, it means you are
                          the coordinator that sees to it that there is an enjoyable feast.

                          Thank you Roberto, I usually don't get this much conversation from our list.
                          :)

                          Lyse
                        • Anne McKinney
                          I know I shouldn t read feast-related posts on an empty stomach! ^_~ Just adding my own two cents...I am not trying to argue against any of the points already
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                            I know I shouldn't read feast-related posts on an empty stomach! ^_~

                            Just adding my own two cents...I am not trying to argue against any of the
                            points already made in this conversation, but make my own pointless comment
                            which you are all free to dismiss as you see fit.

                            I've been to my fair share of bad feasts, and really good feasts too. I try
                            not to think too critically about the way feasts are handled because by the
                            end of an event, I'm just happy to sit in good company and enjoy an evening
                            spent with laughs, meeting new friends, and trying wonderful dishes.
                            Sometimes I've gone hungry waiting for removes to arrive, but they do arrive
                            eventually and my tablemates and I are all happy to see them when they do.
                            By the time we get to try them, it is almost always worth the wait. SCA
                            feasts are meals that cannot be found so easily anywhere else. I love them.

                            Hats off to anyone and everyone who has taken the time and effort to prepare
                            and serve feasts. Regardless of what goes wrong, I'm grateful that there
                            are people willing to put their hearts into these lavish meals. Each one is
                            a memorable event in of itself, and I just want to say thanks to all who put
                            a hand in their creation. Those who have stressed through a troublesome
                            feast, please know that no matter what goes wrong, I'm still happy that
                            people are willing to put forth the energy.

                            And now I'm off to heat up some frozen egg rolls for dinner...sigh...I'll
                            still take the worst SCA feast over instant dinner. Anyone willing to drive
                            to Illinois right now and cook for me? ^_~

                            --Sofya
                            Sorry I will have to miss Bellewode's event! I have my own local event on
                            the same day...and we're not even having a feast! :P
                          • otsisto
                            ... S I ve been to my fair share of bad feasts, and really good feasts too. I try not to think too critically about the way feasts are handled because by the
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                              -----Original Message-----
                              S>I've been to my fair share of bad feasts, and really good feasts too. I
                              try
                              not to think too critically about the way feasts are handled because by the
                              end of an event, I'm just happy to sit in good company and enjoy an evening
                              spent with laughs, meeting new friends, and trying wonderful dishes.

                              *I have found that this has always been a debate for feast, whether to let
                              people just chat or add some form of entertainment. One of those hold your
                              mouth just right and leg out decisions. :)

                              S>Sometimes I've gone hungry waiting for removes to arrive, but they do
                              arrive
                              eventually and my tablemates and I are all happy to see them when they do.
                              By the time we get to try them, it is almost always worth the wait.

                              * I have always wondered if just once a feast steward purposely waits so
                              that you are so hungry you don't care if it tastes good or not. I doubt that
                              someone has ever done that but one has to wonder a bit. :)

                              S>SCA feasts are meals that cannot be found so easily anywhere else. I love
                              them.

                              *I love how they take one recipe and it tends to change with a different
                              cook. Though I used to be more adventurous then today with tasting new
                              dishes but my experience with sweet and sour kidney beans put a slight rein
                              on the adventure. :)

                              S>Hats off to anyone and everyone who has taken the time and effort to
                              prepare
                              and serve feasts. Regardless of what goes wrong, I'm grateful that there
                              are people willing to put their hearts into these lavish meals. Each one is
                              a memorable event in of itself, and I just want to say thanks to all who put
                              a hand in their creation. Those who have stressed through a troublesome
                              feast, please know that no matter what goes wrong, I'm still happy that
                              people are willing to put forth the energy.

                              *Yes they/we do. What we have been going back and forth on is info to try to
                              easy the stress and the work on the day of the feast. Review but not pass
                              blame. Correct what can be corrected. Improve the flow. A kind of Feng
                              shui'ng the feast. :)

                              And now I'm off to heat up some frozen egg rolls for dinner...sigh...I'll
                              still take the worst SCA feast over instant dinner. Anyone willing to drive
                              to Illinois right now and cook for me? ^_~

                              *Sorry I already cook for my SO who gets lost in the kitchen. Would like to
                              recommend if you can get it in your neck of the woods, Iron Chef, Sesame
                              Garlic next time you have egg rolls and if you love garlic.

                              --Sofya
                              Sorry I will have to miss Bellewode's event! I have my own local event on
                              the same day...and we're not even having a feast! :P

                              * how do you pronounce your name? So fee ah or Sof yah?

                              Lyse
                            • Anne McKinney
                              ... to ... Mmm, I haven t seen Iron Chef brand food in the stores here, but I love the shows! And I love garlic...^_^ ... It s 2 syllables, stress on the
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                                > *Sorry I already cook for my SO who gets lost in the kitchen. Would like
                                to
                                > recommend if you can get it in your neck of the woods, Iron Chef, Sesame
                                > Garlic next time you have egg rolls and if you love garlic.
                                >

                                Mmm, I haven't seen Iron Chef brand food in the stores here, but I love the
                                shows! And I love garlic...^_^

                                > * how do you pronounce your name? So fee ah or Sof yah?
                                >
                                > Lyse

                                It's 2 syllables, stress on the first: SOF ya. Thanks for asking--it's a
                                name that is easily confused with Sophia, and I've learned to turn my head
                                when I hear either.

                                --Sofya
                              • otsisto
                                It s 2 syllables, stress on the first: SOF ya. Thanks for asking--it s a name that is easily confused with Sophia, and I ve learned to turn my head when I
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                                  It's 2 syllables, stress on the first: SOF ya. Thanks for asking--it's a
                                  name that is easily confused with Sophia, and I've learned to turn my head
                                  when I hear either.

                                  --Sofya
                                  *******

                                  I sort of figured that was the pronunciation. I can sympathize, I go by a
                                  nickname of my mundane name because I got tired of being called 3-4
                                  different names and having the person get pissed off because I didn't
                                  answer.

                                  Lyse

                                  The Gerbes in the Columbia area carries the Iron Chef in the foreign foods
                                  aisle. There is a orange sauce and a plum sauce as well.
                                • Sauer, Michael F.
                                  Greeting I hope everyone is getting settled back into school. If anyone can manage to take a break and is considering going to coronation the second weekend of
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                                    Greeting
                                     
                                    I hope everyone is getting settled back into school. If anyone can
                                    manage to take a break and is considering going to coronation
                                    the second weekend of september, I will be passing through bellewode on
                                    my way there.
                                     
                                    I have a vehicle that could hold up to 4 others for a non-camping event
                                    and still get half-way decent gas mileage.I'm also in the process of arranging
                                    crash space. So if anyone is interested just contact me at sauerm@...
                                    adn we can work out the details.
                                     
                                    Conrad
                                     
                                    P.S. I plan to be at you picnic on the 25th with armor and dance music!
                                  • Matthew Lagemann
                                    Just a reminder that Coronation will be this weekend. We will discuss loaner garb, car pooling, etc. at the meeting, but I thought I would remind everyone and
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                                      Just a reminder that Coronation will be this weekend. We will discuss loaner garb, car pooling, etc. at the meeting, but I thought I would remind everyone and provide the URL for the event. It is $8 for members and $11 for non members. Camping is free and there are NO cabins left to rent. If you are planning on camping bring food and bedding for cold weather (you never know what the temperature will be). If you have any questions please ask here or bring it up at the meeting (if you have one, probably someone else does too).

                                      In Service,
                                      Ermenrich
                                    • Debbie Sullentrup
                                      do you have the url? ... From: Matthew Lagemann Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Coronation To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
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                                        do you have the url?

                                        --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Matthew Lagemann <mateoalanohombrealtopezold@...> wrote:
                                        From: Matthew Lagemann <mateoalanohombrealtopezold@...>
                                        Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Coronation
                                        To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
                                        Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:47 PM

                                        Just a reminder that Coronation will be this weekend. We will discuss loaner garb, car pooling, etc. at the meeting, but I thought I would remind everyone and provide the URL for the event. It is $8 for members and $11 for non members. Camping is free and there are NO cabins left to rent. If you are planning on camping bring food and bedding for cold weather (you never know what the temperature will be). If you have any questions please ask here or bring it up at the meeting (if you have one, probably someone else does too).

                                        In Service,
                                        Ermenrich


                                      • Matthew Lagemann
                                        CRAP! Yeah I do.... http://www.geocities.com/purplellamaboi/coronation50.html ... From: Debbie Sullentrup To:
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                                          CRAP!  Yeah I do....

                                          http://www.geocities.com/purplellamaboi/coronation50.html

                                          ----- Original Message ----
                                          From: Debbie Sullentrup <kell100312@...>
                                          To: SCA_Bellewode@yahoogroups.com
                                          Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 6:07:00 AM
                                          Subject: Re: [SCA_Bellewode] Coronation

                                          do you have the url?

                                          --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Matthew Lagemann <mateoalanohombrealt opezold@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                          From: Matthew Lagemann <mateoalanohombrealt opezold@yahoo. com>
                                          Subject: [SCA_Bellewode] Coronation
                                          To: SCA_Bellewode@ yahoogroups. com
                                          Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:47 PM

                                          Just a reminder that Coronation will be this weekend. We will discuss loaner garb, car pooling, etc. at the meeting, but I thought I would remind everyone and provide the URL for the event. It is $8 for members and $11 for non members. Camping is free and there are NO cabins left to rent. If you are planning on camping bring food and bedding for cold weather (you never know what the temperature will be). If you have any questions please ask here or bring it up at the meeting (if you have one, probably someone else does too).

                                          In Service,
                                          Ermenrich



                                        • Alexandra Rowland
                                          Hey losers who did not go to Coronation! Let me just tell you: It was *awesome*. Well, except for opening court, because that did sort of drag on for over two
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                                            Hey losers who did not go to Coronation!
                                            Let me just tell you: It was *awesome*. Well, except for opening court, because that did sort of drag on for over two hours, but other than that it was great. Their Majesties seem like really nice and awesome people; feast was the best I've ever had (only two dishes I did not care for! And I brought leftovers home, muahahaha)...

                                            Oh! And the most exciting part!
                                            Of seven people who went to Coronation, 2 of them were newbies and 1 was Albrecht who has never been to an event other than ours. The remaining 4 are now ALL ladies! Yes indeedy, Ceolwyn, Eria, Rhiannon and myself were all awarded Arms for pretty much being badass recruitment ninjas. We pwned closing court you guys. It was like "We invite Eria of Bellewode to approach the throne!.......*announce a few other awards*......We invite Rhiannon of Bellewode to approach the throne! ......*announce a few other things* .........We invite Isabella Caresini etc etc BTW you guys, she is from Bellewode  ......... *other business, etc* We invite Ceolwyn of Bellewode--*possible thoughts of the populace: WTF Bellewode, are you ALL getting elevated today???*"

                                            So yes. I was so squirmy with glee for all of us--you guys totally deserved it! Thanks so much for all your help, my ladies! =DD

                                            Lovelove,
                                            Lady Isabella

                                            PS. Oh yeah, you heard me. Look at that honorific. Look at it. :D It's awesome. WE are awesome. All of Bellewode is awesome. Wouldn't you agree, Lady Ceolwyn?

                                            PPS. If just one of us had gotten an award, I think it would warrant a "Yay! Congratulations!!"  but since ALL FOUR OF US got 'em on the same day in the same court within ten minutes of each other, I think we should have a shindig! With cupcakes and party hats! Something that is like "yay! Congratulations"  to the fourth power. How about it, Bellewode? :D

                                            PPPS. Oh my god you guys feast was beautiful. Inn kind of...was not beautiful, though--I really did not care for the beef soup, but they had really reaaaaaaaaally good bread.
                                          • Matthew Lagemann
                                            Congratulations to all those who received their AoAs. I wish I could have been there. Please remember that we will have an armor day today at 3 pm, my place.
                                            Message 21 of 23 , Sep 20 9:55 AM
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                                              Congratulations to all those who received their AoAs.  I wish I could have been there.

                                              Please remember that we will have an armor day today at 3 pm, my place.  If you need directions call 60-988-3702

                                            • Justin Crouch (Leonardus O)
                                              Just fyi...thats 660* lol Tardis di vos incolumes custodiant For Kingdom, For Brothers, For Lovers, it is for these that I fight. It is for them that I die. On
                                              Message 22 of 23 , Sep 20 10:06 AM
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                                                Just fyi...thats 660* 
                                                lol

                                                Tardis
                                                di vos incolumes custodiant


                                                For Kingdom, For Brothers, For Lovers, it is for these that I fight. It is for them that I die.


                                                On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Matthew Lagemann <mateoalanohombrealtopezold@...> wrote:
                                                 

                                                Congratulations to all those who received their AoAs.  I wish I could have been there.

                                                Please remember that we will have an armor day today at 3 pm, my place.  If you need directions call 60-988-3702


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