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  • John and Michelle Rehfeld
    I am sorry. I just have to ask. Who are you talking about? I have read the emails and it seems like you all know who it is you are writing about but it is
    Message 1 of 42 , Nov 18, 2003
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      I am sorry. I just have to ask. Who are you talking about? I have read the emails and it seems like you all know who it is you are writing about but it is utterly confusing to me....
       
      Marie Angelique DeMarle
      Member of Earngyld
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Almos
      Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA_BARDS] Re: An Tirian Bards!

      As an Ealdormerean (albeit fledgling) bard, I am sorry
      to hear that you felt unwelcome when you came to
      Ealdormere. I would. however, like to point out that
      coming to a whole one event in Ealdormere should
      really not give you the right to crap on our whole
      Kingdom and it's bardic community....many, and I mean
      MANY, musicians and bards have visited our Kingdom,
      been made very welcome, and I have yet to see one that
      has gone home disappointed, and several have made
      plans to come here permanantly as a result of their
      experiences...

      Again, I am sorry you had a bad experience at the one
      event you came to...perhaps you should have made an
      effort to come to a few more to properly give you
      perspective and experience of our Kingdom, before
      kicking us in the nards on a public forum...

      If I have offended any with this post I apologize, but
      I could not let what I perceived as an insult to my
      Kingdom and it's bardic community to go unaswered..

      Almos

      --- ollaimh <ollaimh@...> wrote:
      having been to many an tir bardic evemts, and having
      won a few of
      them, and then moving to ealdormere (or should i say
      heldormere) i
      can assue anyone there is almost nothing but sing
      along with mitch
      and filk  here. there is also absolutely no welcome of
      any kind for
      visiting  muscians.

      i spemt three yeara looking for any one, and just one
      would have
      done, who would help me get to an event or two without
      sucess. they
      pretty much are exclusive. if you aren't going to one
      of the
      universities or safely middle class you can pretty
      much forget it.

      i play several midevel and rennaisence instruments and
      when i did get
      to a few meeting and one event there was virtually no
      interest. they
      did locally written filk and that was it. and mor over
      the more i
      tried to get information the more angry the responses
      got.

      i have since visited the east, it took me two days to
      get to an
      event, and the middle , it took a week. but in
      heldormere if you
      aren;t in the clique you will wait forever. i had
      never met people
      like this before anywhere but it is toronto mostly so
      what do you
      expect


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    • John and Michelle Rehfeld
      I thought this was dropped. *looks around confused* Marie ... From: ollaimh To: SCA_BARDS@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:00 PM Subject:
      Message 42 of 42 , Dec 2, 2003
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        I thought this was dropped. *looks around confused*
         
        Marie
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: ollaimh
        Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:00 PM
        Subject: [SCA_BARDS] Re: An Tirian Bards!

        --- In SCA_BARDS@yahoogroups.com, Almos <malcolmmacculloch@y...>
        wrote:
        > As an Ealdormerean (albeit fledgling) bard, I am sorry
        > to hear that you felt unwelcome when you came to
        > Ealdormere. .yahoo.ca

        i do apreciate your considerate remarks. however i attended dozens of
        meetings and e mailed dozens of people and was never able to get any
        help of any kind to go another event. unfortunately for me the person
        who helped me go to the one i got to was ostracized after some
        slander was spread about them and they dropped out. slander put on
        their e list, proved a lie and ever apologized for.

        presently they are saying on their e list i am schziophreic and
        without medication. completely untrue on both counts but typical of
        my experiences i heldormere. i addition a lie was posted that i was
        seen arguing with a person to get i free at an event . i was offered
        to get i half price for playing at the one event i did attend. i sat
        with new people, they were ice, but no one talked to me who was sca,
        except two who complained about 1. the an tir holy roman one true
        apostolitic church--which i find funny but am ot a member of and 2.
        that my siging wasn't loud enough. maybe the latter was true, i had
        been busking eight hour before the event, but i wouldn't approach a
        new person that way.

        previously a slander was posted that i had crimially harassed some
        one--again untrue, but i couldn't sue as they posted it under a
        persona .

        slkande is acceptable i heldormere.

        i was also unable to find dorectios or gold key again for the dozen
        or so evnts i iquired about--all before the slander blow outs i might
        add.

        oh yeah at ardchreag i was told gaelic was "a fucking gobbledly gook
        language" kind of ironic as they pretend to be gaels. they are the
        usual anglo ontario bigots. who do they hate most-- fraco/gaels from
        the east--canada's traditional "white trash"(of which i am one)

        what really galls me is people like brigh postinng how great they are
        and denegrating an tir. ab tir has at least a half a dozen bardic
        events, like celtic bardic, ermine cross, and oriannia's that are
        larger than almost all events in heldormere. these are big fun events
        with may who actually play instruments--almost uknown i heldormere.

        now i used to get very upset at the slander but now that i know they
        are anglo bigots i understand. thirty years ago whe i first wet to
        otario to work i the tobacco fields we would be swarned in town and
        spit o and called dirty nova scotias and dirty catholic--with much
        colorfull language attached. i would never have entered a anglo group
        except that in an tir i was repeatedly invited and was treated like a
        king by at times hundreds of people , i can get used to that





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