Re: [SCA_BARDS] M B Greenstein
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From: "Sigmund Hewett" <siggy@...>
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> To every wavering voiced book bard that stands for the first time at the
> circle, I salute you. You have my adulation.
> In service,
> Sigmund Malovich.
- --- In SCA_BARDS@y..., Sigmund Hewett <siggy@M...> wrote:
> Think back to the first time any of you performed, spokeBeen there, done that, SO spectacularly that friends and total
> publically, whatever. Was it a harrowing experience? And were your
> friends and peers supportive? If they yelled 'YOU SUCK!' maybe you
> would never have continued.
strangers alike came up to me for the rest of the event to ask if I
was all right.
> I've been blessed to have people close to both me support andWell put, Sigmund. I credit several very talented musicians in my
> criticize my work a number of times. They've been helpful,
> informative, and keep my feet planted firmly on the ground.
> I think I've improved greatly because of it. There will always be
> someone worse than you out there, just as there will always be
> someone better. Give help and support to those below you, and
> those above you will do the same for you.
kingdom for telling me repeatedly, "you can do this" and daring me to
raise the bar.
Jehanne de Wodeford, Rusted Woodlands (EAST)
- Greetings from Linette!
I agree with other posters that M.B. Greenstein's critique was thoughtful
and fairly gentle.
However, it's not clear whether Alwyn wanted any critique, and so now I'm
asking: Alwyn, what is your purpose in posting your pieces? I've checked
the archive, and all of your posts have been posting your original
poetry. Are you requesting critiques, or just posting to share? Most of
your pieces are not especially medieval or Renaissance in style - are you
striving to create works that will work for the SCA? I see on your website
that you're part of a circle of pagan poets, and that seems to be a focus
of your poetry. Have you any comments that would help clear up your
desires regarding your posts, so the list can better help you one way or
I applaud everyone who is brave enough to share their original work - I
know how intimidating that can be, from personal experience! Please,
folks, let's keep an encouraging atmosphere here on the list - disparaging
remarks of the sort I've seen from other posters are really not appropriate
for the stated goals of the list.
- On Friday 31 August 2001 10:44, you wrote:
> I was begining to think those poems were just a joke, and was getting into8< snipped for brevity..
> the habit of deleting them sight unseen, a thing I hate to do. Everyone
> should get their two cents if they go to the trouble of posting something,
> after all. But they have the 'sofistication' of something out of junior
> high school, so I couldn't believe that someone would toment us with such
> amature efforts without it being a joke, or for critique to improve
Personally I don't read much poetry, nor do I go to poetry readings, and I
don't have a degree in English (that's my brother in laws bag, mine was
But I do know good taste, manners, and tact. Posting a personal work takes a
degree of courage, as much as getting up and performing. To invite a
criticism of that work takes even more.
To the learned gentleman that did give a constructive and informed critique,
I take my hat off.
To everyone else that's put in a spiteful two cents worth, my trousers are
more appropriate, especially to this wad of pretentious rubbish above.
Think back to the first time any of you performed, spoke publically,
whatever. Was it a harrowing experience? And were your friends and peers
supportive? If they yelled 'YOU SUCK!' maybe you would never have continued.
First time I was asked to sing I had to be three quarters drunk, and I thank
whoever watched over me that night that my voice didn't waver (even though I
always announce in a loud and happy voice that 'I don't sing very well' the
first time I get out of my chair'). I also thank the lords and ladies that
supported me (mentally and by that stage physically) afterwards.
It took me eight times longer to learn to juggle than any of the ten people I
myself have taught afterwards, This is no reflection on the skill of my
teacher, but myself as a student.
The first time I was asked to perform in front of a crown my legs shook so
much that I had apologize and cut short.
In both cases (and nearly all) I have been treated kindly, patiently, with
respect and courtesy.
Had they waved me off with insulting comments on my coordination, I would
never have found my niche in the SCA. Ultimately I would have left and missed
the opportunity of meeting so many good friends, and having so many good
I've been blessed to have people close to both me support and criticize my
work a number of times. They've been helpful, informative, and keep my feet
planted firmly on the ground. I think I've improved greatly because of it.
There will always be someone worse than you out there, just as there will
always be someone better. Give help and support to those below you, and
those above you will do the same for you.
To every wavering voiced book bard that stands for the first time at the
circle, I salute you. You have my adulation.
To every naysayer that insults them without a single constructive word
on how to improve. I hang my head, you have my pity.
I'll leave the closing words to two men much greater than myself, they sum up
everything I have to say:
"If we have seen further, it is because we have stood on the shoulders of
"Imagination is more important than knowledge"