Re: [SCA-Milliners] MOL text/Making Medieval Hats
On 2 Oct 2000, at 23:06, Leah Lloyd wrote:
> > Museum of London _Dress Accessories_
I really WANT this book... anyone have a copy for sale or know
where I can get one?
> *Phew*! It's 11pm and I'm going to bed now. Is there anyone else who
> has any opinions or suggestions on this subject besides we three
> Easterners? Danabren
I don't know you guys are doing amazing things online. The force
is with you... or is it Q? Moonraker not withstanding ... wow I am
keeping all these posts.
- Leah Lloyd wrote:
> > the veil was sewn, presumably along the whole length; which would beYeah, I could see that. But there's already a layer of silk on the wire,
> > odd, because if this is the true shape, you'd get almost a tube of
> > veiling attached to a double bracelet of wire effect.
> My thought is that instead of having buckram and wire screening ;) and
> such to make their headdreses out of, adding on the knowledge that they
> (or the makers) had much more free time available to do such intensive
> handwork, that the spiral thread loops are there to sew the fabric cover
> *on* to, as an anchor.
so the loops are another layer.
> > Danabren, could you describe the ram's horn use of wire like this?Okey, maybe my problem is a terminology one. I think of "ram's horn"
> > I'm short in the imagining department tonight, and you're much more
> > familiar with the style than I am.
> Again, turn it 180 degrees. The hooks would be underneath, if for no
> other reason that looped metal would create a lump, and who wants that?
> One end of the spiral is placed against an ear. The entire frame is
> covered in fabric, basically becoming a short tube, open on one flat end
> (ear). Depending upon the size of the wearer, and the extremity of
> fashion at the time, the caul is either demure, just enough to cover the
> hair and ear, or larger, the start of the grander styles which eventually
> evolved into the grandiose heart-shaped hennins of the 15th C
headress as the ponytails wrapped with fabric and then coiled into flat
Danish Pastry arrangements on each side of the head. I think I'd call
what you describe here as simply "horn shaped" since there isn't any
visible spiraling of the hair. Or, if it was the flatter lumps (a la
the princess in Braveheart) I don't have a good name for that style --
every book has their own term, it seems.
At any rate, now that you've explained, I feel very happy, as it's
another possible bit of info in the "sometimes what we see in the horns
is the surface of fabric, with possible fake hair or other support
behind it" theory. A theory that I'm fond of, but one never knows.
Cynthia du Pré Argent
"Such virtue hath my pen...." -Shakespeare, Sonnet LXXXI
"I knew this wasn't _my_ pen!" --Cynthia V.
> Okey, maybe my problem is a terminology one. I think of "ram's horn"I usually refer to those as "Princess Leia Buns", if they are flat and
> headress as the ponytails wrapped with fabric and then coiled into
> flat Danish Pastry arrangements on each side of the head.
round. "Ram's Horns" when they are small cauls, anywhere in size from
baby's fists to canteloupes. "Moose Ears" when the cauls are at their
horizontal size apex. "Puppy Ears" when the hair is braided from above
the temple, dropping down to jaw level and then folding back up (usually
worn with cotehardies). "Coin Holders" or "Airplane Streeling Wheel"
(courtesy of friends) when vertical tubular cauls are worn around the
puppy ears. Any basic knob shape made up exclusively of hair is also a
"horn", but much less amusing for both the wearer and their friends :)
I think I'd call
> what you describe here as simply "horn shaped" since there isn't anyARRRRRRGH!!!!! (sorry, personal candy-coloured button)
> visible spiraling of the hair. Or, if it was the flatter lumps (a la
> the princess in Braveheart)
I don't have a good name for that style
> -- every book has their own term, it seems.And every milliner! :)
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