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Miracles and Portrayals of Mary

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  • Eridani Aurus
    I was looking at some paintings yesterday looking for garb ideas, details, decoration, etc. Considering that 90% of females pictured in works of that era are
    Message 1 of 4 , Jan 1, 2003
      I was looking at some paintings yesterday looking for
      garb ideas, details, decoration, etc. Considering
      that 90% of females pictured in works of that era are
      of the Virgin Mary, it seems that to be really
      authentic, one should wear a red dress almost entirely
      covered by a deep blue cloak. Gold trim is optional
      on the garb but you need some kind of gold plate to
      hover over your head. After perusing a number of
      these works, I became aware of a little millinary
      problem (not the gold plate). Perhaps someone can
      help me understand the mechanics here.

      Mary and most other females have this voluminous shawl
      thing. It goes from the top of their head to their
      feet. It does not seem to have a separate hood. Most
      of the time there is no visible clasp or tie or
      attachment to clothes. Most of the time it modestly
      covers the back half of the head. In my opinion this
      garment is a physical impossibility. How does it stay
      on the head? How does it cling gently to the
      shoulders? How come these women are not pictured with
      a big blue puddle of cloth on the ground behind them?
      This fashion seems ubiquitous and probably is not just
      a convention used by all painters to avoid having to
      draw in the lady's figures. How then does this shawl
      thing work? Is it a miracle?

      Eridani

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    • Bella
      ... Mary and most other females have this voluminous shawl thing. It goes from the top of their head to their feet. It does not seem to have a separate
      Message 2 of 4 , Jan 1, 2003
        --- Eridani Aurus <eridaniaurus@...> wrote:
        <snip>
        Mary and most other females have this voluminous shawl
        thing. It goes from the top of their head to their
        feet. It does not seem to have a separate hood. Most
        of the time there is no visible clasp or tie or
        attachment to clothes. Most of the time it modestly
        covers the back half of the head. In my opinion this
        garment is a physical impossibility. How does it stay
        on the head? How does it cling gently to the
        shoulders? <snip>



        Well, religious paintings are problematic. But, that
        aside, I have one pic, not religious, that shows
        something like this being worn, although in this pic
        it's not worn over the head. I have just uploaded it
        to my site, although it's not accesible on the main
        pages yet. In this case there is a clasp/cord thing
        happening. :)

        <http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona/CarpaccioArrival.JPG>



        Bella




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      • Katherine Barich
        Hi Bella, I keep getting the message that the page is unavailable and I have been trying since last night. Might you be able to help? Katherine ... From:
        Message 3 of 4 , Jan 2, 2003
          Hi Bella,

          I keep getting the message that the page is unavailable and I have
          been trying since last night. Might you be able to help?

          Katherine


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          From: Bella <bella_lucia_da_verona@...>
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          Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:19:56 +1100 (EST)

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          >Mary and most other females have this voluminous shawl<BR>
          >thing. It goes from the top of their head to their <BR>
          >feet. It does not seem to have a separate hood.  Most<BR>
          >of the time there is no visible clasp or tie or<BR>
          >attachment to clothes. Most of the time it modestly <BR>
          >covers the back half of the head. In my opinion this<BR>
          >garment is a physical impossibility. How does it stay<BR>
          >on the head? How does it cling gently to the<BR>
          >shoulders? <snip><BR>
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          ><BR>
          >Well, religious paintings are problematic. But, that<BR>
          >aside, I have one pic, not religious, that shows<BR>
          >something like this being worn, although in this pic<BR>
          >it's not worn over the head. I have just uploaded it<BR>
          >to my site, although it's not accesible on the main<BR>
          >pages yet. In this case there is a clasp/cord thing<BR>
          >happening. :)<BR>
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        • Bella
          ... Hi Bella, I keep getting the message that the page is unavailable and I have been trying since last night. Might you be able to help?
          Message 4 of 4 , Jan 2, 2003
            --- Katherine Barich <wheezul@...> wrote:

            Hi Bella,

            I keep getting the message that the page is
            unavailable and I have been trying since last night.
            Might you be able to help?<<<<<<


            I wish I could Katherine. If you're getting the
            message that my site is down because I've exceeded my
            bandwidth, there is nothing I can do. I just checked
            though, and it was accessible. At least Yahoo lets me
            back online much quicker than Tripod. Soon-ish I will
            move the whole site over to my new web host who
            doesn't have a limit on bandwidth - so it will never
            matter how many people have been to my site in the
            hour! :)

            Oh wait! That image is also online! I could give you a
            link! <smacks herself in forehead>

            Ah...and the Web Gallery of Art has a good detail shot
            too!
            Carpaccio (Venetian) circa 1495:
            <http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/c/carpacci/1ursula/1/14ambass.jpg>


            Bella




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