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Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Rose water

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  • Eleyn Scrivener
    Cat, Thanks for sharing that! Do you mind if I pass along your post to my local group? Another way I ve heard (but haven t tried) is to put on the stove a big
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 17, 2003
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      Cat,
      Thanks for sharing that! Do you mind if I pass along your post to
      my local group?

      Another way I've heard (but haven't tried) is to put on the stove
      a big stew pot (that has a fitting lid) and place a clean brick in the
      center. Fill the pot with distilled water almost up to the top of the
      brick. Place your petals around the brick in the water.
      On top of the brick, place a bowl.
      Turn the stove on low.
      Place the lid, inverted, on the pot and place ice cubes in what is
      usually the bottom of the lid (but is facing up now).

      Since most lids curve upwards on the top, the now downward curve, direct
      the condensation into the bowl.

      Have you ever heard of or tried this? I do like your way better. If I
      ever get enough rosepetals, I will try it!

      Thanks again,

      Eleyn Scrivener
      eleyn@...
      http://www.thesinisterscribe.com



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      From: "Cat>^-.-^<" <catzilla@...>
      Reply-To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:09:11 -0700

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      >Hi Marguerite:<BR>
      >Distillation is a simple process and the equipment needn't be expensive.<BR>
      >Here is how I make a simple (albeit non-period) still:<BR>
      ><BR>
      >1. Get an ordinary tea pot with spout (preferably made of glass), about 3<BR>
      >feet of plastic aquarium tubing (make sure the diameter of the tubing is<BR>
      >nearly the same as the hole in the spout of the teapot). Stuff one end of<BR>
      >the tubing securely in the spout (the fit should be airtight). This is your<BR>
      >still.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >2. Fill (don't pack) the kettle halfway with fresh, clean, fragrant rose<BR>
      >petals. Add enough pure or distilled water (no chlorine) to completely<BR>
      >submerge the petals and keep them from scorching. Place the kettle over low<BR>
      >heat on the stove.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >3. Take the tubing and run it around a metal or heat resistant tumbler<BR>
      >filled with ice water (a clean beer can works well), spiraling the tubing<BR>
      >down ward (it helps to position the tumber on a table or other surface<BR>
      >slightly lower than the kettle to allow gravity to pull the distillate down<BR>
      >through the tube). Make sure the tube isn't pulled tight and have the end of<BR>
      >the tube in a bowl or other container large enough to hold most of the<BR>
      >liquid in the kettle.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >4. As the water in the kettle comes to a boil, the steam rises and passes<BR>
      >through the tubing then cools and condenses back into a liquid as it passes<BR>
      >around the tumber. This runs into the bowl (called a receiver).<BR>
      ><BR>
      >5. Watch the kettle and make sure it doesn't boil dry. Don't turn up the<BR>
      >heat trying to get the liquid to distill faster, as you might wind up<BR>
      >scorching the roses (they are very delicate!).<BR>
      ><BR>
      >6. Let the distilled liquid cool and you may notice tiny droplets of oil on<BR>
      >the surface...this is the essential oil or attar of rose. This should be<BR>
      >gathered up with a small amount of cotton on a toothpick or eyedropper and<BR>
      >bottled separately.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >7. The distilled rosewater should be bottled in dark glass and stored in a<BR>
      >cool, not cold place, away from sunlight.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >Note: this process can be used for other fresh flowers like lavender,<BR>
      >cornflower and chamomile.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >Good luck! :-)<BR>
      >Cat<BR>
      ><BR>
      >>I'm looking for information on distilling rose water.<BR>
      >How much rose petals does it take to produce a given amount of rose water?<BR>
      >How elaborate does the condenser coils need to be for proper distillation?<BR>
      >(As you can tell haven't done this procedure since High School. And that was<BR>
      >a looooong time ago.)<BR>
      ><BR>
      >Does anyone have practical experience? (I know this question has come up in<BR>
      >the past in other groups.)<BR>
      >Is there a web-site or book that can shed some light on the subject?<BR>
      >I'm in hopes of producing enough rose water for a feast. (Recipes, water for<BR>
      >the finger-bowl, gifts fit for Royalty/Peers, item for auction, etc.)<BR>
      ><BR>
      >Any and all information will be welcome.<BR>
      >Thank you for spending time on this question.<BR>
      ><BR>
      >Marguerite Chartier<BR>
      >MOAS of Coldwood, East Kingdom<BR>
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    • Eleyn Scrivener
      Egads! Sorry everyone, I only hit the send button once. My apologies! I don t know why it posted twice. : ( If this one posts twice I will try to find out
      Message 2 of 6 , Sep 17, 2003
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        Egads! Sorry everyone, I only hit the send button once. My apologies!
        I don't know why it posted twice. : ( If this one posts twice I will
        try to find out what's going on.


        Eleyn Scrivener
        eleyn@...
        http://www.thesinisterscribe.com



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        From: "Eleyn Scrivener" <eleyn@...>
        Reply-To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:33:14 -0400

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        >Cat,<BR>
        >Thanks for sharing that! Do you mind if I pass along your post to <BR>
      • Julie Tamura (Corp)
        I only got each once. Don t stress ... From: Eleyn Scrivener [mailto:eleyn@thesinisterscribe.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:38 PM To:
        Message 3 of 6 , Sep 17, 2003
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          I only got each once.  Don't stress <G>

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Eleyn Scrivener [mailto:eleyn@...]
          Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:38 PM
          To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Rose water

           

          Egads! Sorry everyone, I only hit the send button once. My apologies!
          I don't know why it posted twice. : ( If this one posts twice I will
          try to find out what's going on.


          Eleyn Scrivener
          eleyn@...
          http://www.thesinisterscribe.com



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          From: "Eleyn Scrivener" <eleyn@...>
          Reply-To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
          Date:  Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:33:14 -0400

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          >Thanks for sharing that! Do you mind if I pass along your post to <BR>

                      


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        • Chartier
          I was just wondering. Would it be possible to use a pressure cooker as the pot? Put the hose where the pressure guage would go. Or would this allow too much
          Message 4 of 6 , Sep 26, 2003
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            I was just wondering. Would it be possible to use a pressure cooker as the pot? Put the hose where the pressure guage would go. Or would this allow too much heat, "injuring" the pettles?
             
            I haven't been able to find the clear glass tea-pot that was recomended, so I wondering if something else would work. I'm trying to keep my big cooking pot free for other things.
             
            Marguerite Chartier
             
          • Julie Tamura (Corp)
            My pressure cooker actually came with directions for using it as a distiller. HOWEVER this is one of the heavy duty ones, not one of the supermarket brands.
            Message 5 of 6 , Sep 26, 2003
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              My pressure cooker actually came with directions for using it as a distiller.  HOWEVER this is one of the heavy duty ones, not one of the supermarket brands.  I've never tried it but I have a yard of old fashioned roses just dying to be either dried for potpourri or made into rose water <G>

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              I was just wondering. Would it be possible to use a pressure cooker as the pot? Put the hose where the pressure guage would go. Or would this allow too much heat, "injuring" the pettles?

               

              I haven't been able to find the clear glass tea-pot that was recomended, so I wondering if something else would work. I'm trying to keep my big cooking pot free for other things.

               

              Marguerite Chartier

               

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