This upcoming Thursday evening, many of us in Mountain's Gate are taking a
trip to LA to visit the wonderful fabric district. This will be my first
trek to this wonderful place our Seneschal has told us so much about, and I
get to spend lots of money on expensive fabrics sold cheaply there. I'm so
looking forward to this trip. I hope to come home with lots of stuff to
work up wonderful garb for both myself and my husband.
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From: cherylhokw [mailto:cherylhokw@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:21 AM
Subject: [SCA-Garb] Re: Is this gorgeous fabric appropriate for any
period? For Bella!
Greetings, and sincere apologies to dearest Signora Bella Lucia da
Verona, Realm of Venus and Creative Beauty!
My sloppy use of the word "ubiquitous" was actually in reference to
the odd "courtesan" garb in "Dangerous Beauty", where it seems to me,
essentially anything goes!!!
No slight was intended to the brilliant and learned courtesans, as
their courageous social, political, academic and artistic
contributions brought powerful feminine light into an unbalanced and
As to the gorgeous fabric in question, how about a masque gown -
Italian, 1570 or so?
As to the beading on the fabric, I can sit on it - particularly if
the skirt is full with proper undergarb. I have conducted an
experiment to that effect.
I want to dance in it with gallant [ well - maybe not toooo
gallant :) ] gentlemen and learned ladies, and no one in my real
period (the 21st century) loves the kind of dancing I do! And ... if
I kept dancing all evening, I would never once sit! Or, do you think
that perhaps discretely sitting on a lap would be gentler to the
Warmly and appreciatively, Cheryl Hilda.
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, Bella <bella_lucia_da_verona@y...>
> --- cherylhokw <cherylhokw@y...> wrote:
> > Greetings:
> > A little over one year ago I was given almost 8 yards of high
> > pumpkin colored medium weight silk. It is hand embroidered with
> > identical small (3" x 1.5") sprays of realistic green leaves and
> > flowers. The flowers are embellished with tiny real glass beads
> > subtle shades tawny gold on cocoa brown stems.
> > When looked at from afar, the sprays of leaves and flowers
> > unobtrusively form the corners of diamonds, the sides of which
> > approximately 5" in length. The fabric has a beautiful hand and
> > drape.
> > It is a glorious length of fabric and I have pondered how to use
> > It is gorgeous, and elaborate, and I can't determine what period
> > culture might be appropriate for its use, if any.
> > An additional complication to the beaded embroidery is that the
> > fabric is dupioni.
> What gorgeous sounding fabric! I would hesitate to use it because
of the dupioni. Ok, just for a
> second or two - how could I *not* use such a lovely gift? :)
> > Does anyone have any suggestions other than the ubiquitous
> > courtesan?
> <LOL> Oh dear - we are ubiquitous now are we? I'm not sure if
that's a good thing or a bad. ;-)
> But since I am one (at least my persona is) I couldn't let this go.
The Venetian courtesan, if
> indeed she were a *courtesan* and not simply a prostitute (many
have mistaken the two) would be
> dressed much like any other Venetian noblewoman, sometimes to the
point of dressing up as a widow
> or virgin. So no one fabric will be more suitable to courtesan
persona over noblewoman persona, or
> vice versa.
> So, with that cleared up, I will say that the embroidery placement
sounds more suited to very late
> period (last third 16th century) than any other, and perhaps more
suited to Italian, but not
> totally unsuited to Elizabethan or French of the same period.
> The only doubt I would have about this fabric (besides the dupioni)
is the beading - I've been
> told never to bead the back of the skirts, since sitting on the
beads would be uncomfortable, if
> not damaging to your beads. Soemthing to think about.
> Signora Bella Lucia da Verona
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