Thanks Aspasia...Your explanation is one of the possible solutions I
have entertained, and it is helpful to see that others are doing it
that way...I may try a few variant methods and see which works out
best, but will continue to research. Hopefully I can find someone
who's had access to some extant gowns of this type and can pick
their brain for further info!
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, "Aspasia Moonwind"
> >Hi all...I haven't posted in like forever, but I'm still
> >I was wondering if anyone is doing german gowns circa 1525-1550?
> >particular I am soliciting ideas about the white stomach panels
> >how or IF the skirts, all of which appear to be cartridge pleated,
> >are attached. Not having done one in the past, and not having
> >researched them much, my first inclination is that there might be
> >under-bodice to which the skirt is attached and then there's an
> >outer bodice with the white panel that is like a placket over
> >the bodice is laced. This is just supposition as I've not seen an
> >extant garment (not even photographed) which could show anything
> >about the construction. So if any of you have any references,
> >or answers, let me know, or at least help me puzzle this one out!
> If you get a book on Cranach portraits at the library, look at how
> compare. The one of Lucretia 1523 shows the front lowered, with
> (fake chemise) attached at the waist, Also in the one in 1592 of
> It also shows how the sleeves were faked. Jesus and the Woman
> Adultry shows the entire front piece with the lacings over and
> side front.
> When I was Media Specialist at Jacksonville University, I talked
to a lady
> from Germany who did traditional dancing and she said the
> often follow the same patterns as used by Cranach. She said the
> with the brocade piece is sewn in at the waist, with the opening
> side, hidden by a skirt pleat at the edge of the front piece. The
> hooks into the sides of the "jacket." The white is attached to
the front of
> the skirt and the brocade. There are lacing loops under the edge
> jacket where a cord is ran through in a spiral, then tied in to
> one. The bodice is only sewn in to the back, then hook into the
> the waist at the front edge over the edge of the lacing.
> In Trimaris several people have reproduced one of the dresses
> me, and confirm this is also the way they saw it.
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