- If you have a large glass area, such as a sliding door, when the sun is shining through the glass area. tape your pattern up on the glass and then tape theMessage 1 of 30 , Jan 1, 2003View SourceIf you have a large glass area, such as a sliding door, when the sun is
shining through the glass area. tape your pattern up on the glass and then
tape the fabric over it. Trace the pattern on the fabric. The light coming
through the glass will show the pattern and you can then trace it.
>From: Lila Richards <lila.richards@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Subject: Re: [SCA-Garb] Large embroidery patterns
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:55:58 +1300
> > Well you could trace it onto tracing paper, flip it over and trace it on
> > back (so you have lead built up on the other side to transfer with) and
> > the paper back over and lay it on top of the fabric, then go around it
> > with a pencil on the right side. It'll leave a faint pencil outline on
> > fabric, which you can embroider over. There are half-finished period
> > embroideries with the pencil lines still on them.
> > Galiana
>Cool! That's more or less what I do, though I trace it onto the right side,
>using embroidery carbon paper, then go over it - usually with ballpoint
>since the kind of embroidery I do covers it over. Still, it's nice to know
>that a similar principle was used in period 9though, I imagine, not during
>my time, the 9th C.)..
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- Pouncing, pricking, ruling through layers and other duplication techniques are documentable with miniature painting and illuminations back to the 13th century,Message 2 of 30 , Jan 2, 2003View SourcePouncing, pricking, ruling through layers and other duplication
techniques are documentable with miniature painting and
illuminations back to the 13th century, just in case anyone has to
document that for A&S...good sources include anything by Janet
Backhouse, Roger Weick, Michelle Brown's _Understanding
And since we know that illuminators, painters, sculptors and
tapestry makers borrowed and stole from each other, it's not an
illogical conclusion, when one sees many similar motifis in wide
ranging art forms, to realize that there was often a fruitful
cooperation between the various guilds and trades.
After all, why re-invent the wheel?
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, "Laura Bullins
<lbullins@b...>" <lbullins@b...> wrote:
> just a random bit of info- the prick and pounce technique wasalso
> used in painting. in fact, thats how michelangelo got thedesigns for
> the sistene chapel on the ceiling. he would first draweverything out
> on paper and then prick it and apply it to the ceiling with chalkor
> soot. he just did that for the outlines, of course, but it helpedget
> the basic lay out down. :)<dubghaille@w...> wrote:
> --- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Doyle"
> > >What would be a good way to transfer the pattern to thefabric?
> > Prick and pounce was one of the standards of embroidery
> transfers during the Elizabethan period, if not earlier. Basicallywhere
> the design is pricked with a pin or needle so there are holes
> the design lays. The paper is laid on to the fabric and apowder is
> sprinkled over the paper. Lightly tap the paper, so the powdergoes
> through the holes and onto the fabric below. Then take a penor
> paint and connect the dots for a pattern that will stay while youspices as
> work it.
> > When working light fabrics IIRC they may have used some
> the pounce-though that seems very wasteful to me. Then aregular
> black ink was used to connect the dots. When working withdark
> fabrics a white chalk or such was used and IIRC white lead ora white
> paint was used to connect the dots.light
> > For modern use, I typically work with tracing paper and a
> table to transfer designs on light colored fabric (a glass topcoffee
> table and a lamp is a great light table)and a wash-out ink penfound
> in most embroidery and fabric stores.does
> > When the fabric is dark, like the piece of black velvet that I
> started work on this weekend, I tried the pounce method and it
> work, even with working on the back side of the velvet. For theso I
> vines I've used a bit of sewing thread and basted in the lines
> can see them from the other side. For the flowers and thingsthe
> stitch I'm using requires an outlining stitch that done in adouble
> running can be worked from the reverse without a problem.
> > Alex
- Or, if you re lucky enough to have a strong light over or near the door, you can also do this at night. Flip the light on and away you go. And if the lightMessage 3 of 30 , Jan 2, 2003View SourceOr, if you're lucky enough to have a strong light over or near the
door, you can also do this at night. Flip the light on and away you
And if the light burns out, and you're truly desparate, you can
steal your hubby's clippable workshop lights, mount them on
sawhorses, and trace away. 'Cause sometimes, the glass top in
your coffeetable or kitchen table just isn't big enough.
I did a 24'' x48'' scroll border and lining for the calligraphy this
way. I wouldn't recommend it if you don't work well in high stress
situations. (Wanting to kill the kingdom signet 'cause they didn't
tell you about the scroll earlier does qualify as such.)
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia Fee"
>the sun is
> If you have a large glass area, such as a sliding door, when
> shining through the glass area. tape your pattern up on theglass and then
> tape the fabric over it. Trace the pattern on the fabric. The lightcoming
> through the glass will show the pattern and you can then traceit.
> Katherine Mc
- ... May I be coming to the rescue and not just really behind the times. Being a high school senior is piteously hectic at times. Anyway,Message 4 of 30 , Jan 8, 2003View Source
> But what I'd really like to know is where on her pagesMay I be coming to the rescue and not just really behind the
> these can be found so that I can read what she has to
> say about these, as well as look at the pretty
> pictures. :)
times. Being a high school senior is piteously hectic at times.
Anyway, www.vertetsable.com/dummiesdesign.htm Give that a gander.
Also, try http://vertetsable.com/periodstyle.htm I am absolutely
enchanted by this site.
- ... wrote: ... Yes, I d already found it thanks to others on this list, but I ll say thank you to you anyway for taking the time toMessage 5 of 30 , Jan 8, 2003View Source--- "lillalette <lillalette@...>"
<lillalette@...> wrote: >
> May I be coming to the rescue and not justYes, I'd already found it thanks to others on this
> really behind the
> times. Being a high school senior is piteously
> hectic at times.
> Anyway, www.vertetsable.com/dummiesdesign.htm Give
> that a gander.
list, but I'll say "thank you" to you anyway for
taking the time to help. :)
> Also, try http://vertetsable.com/periodstyle.htm IMe too! I'll still finding new things there - as is
> am absolutely
> enchanted by this site.
evident by this thread. :)
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