> I note several folk on the RenCostumer list wear their linen
> and dresses for everyday wear as well as for faire wear, and
> it applies) SCA wear.
Well the vast majority of people cannot wear things like that to
work. You get warnings in a lot of places. So it's still only a
small part of the wardrobe.
> > so the cost as a percentage of their income was far less than we
> > would pay for an outfit that's only part time.
> But they had fewer garments, overall.
And that just further strengthens my point... our current economic
positions should not influence the persona I play.. If I had as few
garments mundanely I could afford more fabric!
> Then I must be a class snob in mundane life, too -- for a class I
> don't know even exists. (The "don't-give-me-any-of-that-synthetic-
> fiber-trash" class?) I can and do turn down clothes not made of
> natural fibers, or at least made mostly of natural fibers.
Fine. Choose to wear natural fibres for comfort. I wear no "pull
straight from the line and wear" clothes for this reason: I do a
hang of a lot of different things during the day and I find these
more comfortable. But it shouldn't be used as a judgement of others.
I was actually referring to the comment that people should rethink
their person choices. That is a class issue.
> Maybe the relative costs of fabrics are different
> where you live...
> Are we now comparing Period garb to Period life, and saying we
> to do that castle-in-Wales, everybody-is-probably-the-servants
Actually i know of people doing as close to that as they can.
Buildng from natural materials a homestead on a rural plot of land.
Of course this is NZ...
These people also raise their own sheep and loom their own fabric.
Can you imagine what they think of people you buy ..shock.. machine
loomed fabrics!?!?... see another level of striving for authenticy.
> The reasons that come to mind are budget, time, believability. (As
> example, I could decide to portray a young, ravishing beauty, but
> second you look at my forty-something very-thin gray hair and
> incipient -- not *quite* visible, but close -- wrinkles, the
> goes completely up in smoke.)
Well I am a young highley educated woman who is very happliy single
and would never be forced into marrying anyone. I could play such a
woman quite believeably in that time.. even I
> > In period I would be dead by now. Or possibly lying on a
> > cot in the dark in absolute agony.
> I fully expect I'd've been burned at the stake a long time ago
Me to being absolutely being resolutely fixed in my beliefs.. which
I will not share here, for that is a totally different debate .. and
one I don't participate in either;). My views are my own. If I find
people who agree with them I talk.. if not... I'm not going to press
my views on them.. and they'd better not try and force theirs on me.
> Hmm. Do you wear them on camping events, too (or do you not do
> camping)? If so, how "primitive" are the conditions (e.g., do you
> draw water onsite and have to treat that water), and how do you
> for them in those conditions?
I don't camp. And my health is rather too precarious for me to go
anywhere it will be put in jeopardy. And I'll listen to their
experiences with an open mind, and learn from it. But I don't think
I should be told to rethink what I'm doing because I can't.
> Where I'm coming from is an impression -- possibly incorrect and
> founded -- that many people are choosing to adopt personnae of
> and positions that they likely never would have been able to
> to, to the detriment of examining the way the society of those
> periods *functioned*. The adoption of jobs and positions closer to
> one's mundane economic position might create a more realistic
Well.. thing is we also have a very different social system. Most of
us work. Well educated: ie we can read and write and usually have
other skills besides;).. things denied us if we were to plunk
ourselves into corresponding social positions "back then." So to
find a level where these are given even to, horrors, women we find a
much higher social level. Or are we all going to be iliterate? This
is a fun option if you want it, and bravo for anyone taking on a
persona like that.. hehehe.. fun...
Reasonable attempt.. within reason, with the use of reason, "be
reasonable".... able to be reasoned.... personal interpretations
narrow the (purposefully?) wide scope the term suggests.
while this could get to the point of flaming, this has been
interesting and hopefully people will see the range of views and
choose their own ground (level suggests better and worse while
boudaries is too limiting sounding) for garb making.