Maybe there were holes in the houppelandes to allow access to a pouch
underneath. However, in paintings of houppes lined with fur, there isn't
visible evidence of such a hole that I've seen--you would think you'd see
the fur peeking through. On the other hand, you don't see fur peeking
through the front slit, and there is evidence that houppes were slit quite
far down the front. The fullness of the garment may hide both.
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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: [SCA-Garb] Re: Speaking of pouches...
> --- In SCA-Garb@y..., "Kristen Dahle" <kjdahle@h...> wrote:
> > I'm beginning to think that two layers of belts were worn. There
> are many
> > paintings of women in kirtles wearing slim, long belts at hip level
> > various accessories attached. I have yet to see a pouch or
> anything else
> > attached to the high belts worn over the houppelandes. There are
> > of women hitching up their houppe skirts for dancing, for working,
> etc., so
> > it seems reasonable to me that they would be able to access a pouch
> > underneath without being rude. The pouches I've seen attached to
> the kirtle
> > belts usually hang fairly low, too--maybe for ease of access under
> a houppe?
> > This is something I'm just exploring, so I'd love to hear other
> ideas or see
> > different pictures.
> > Elisa
> >I thought that the holes in the side seams in dresses like the
> hjerfolness (sp) gowns was to allow access to a pouch hung from a
> belt under the gown.I would imagine its a similar thing with grander
> frocks, leave a slit and wear a really practical pouch underneath.
> > >
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