Re: Cloaks with arm-slits
- View SourceCloak/coat(?) Spain, 15th Century
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, Mackenzie Morgan <macoafi@...> wrote:
> Anyone know of an example garment, painting, illumination...?
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- View SourceI would have interpretted both of those examples as surcoats becuase of how close they fit the upper body of the wearer...
I know it's not a "cloak with arm slits", but a late/post period cassock might be considered similar..
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, "otsisto" <otsisto@...> wrote:
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- View SourceHi Rashid,
Might you be recalling a gardecorps? They show up in manuscript art between mostly between 1250 and 1325ish:
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...I remembered seeing some very full cloaks that could have been full circles in that same 1300's- 1400's period.
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- View SourceThat's interesting, but extremely topologically ambiguous. If you follow the white sash, on one side it looks like it goes through the arm slit, and on the other side it looks like it goes underneath a sleeve. And on the side facing us, the draping looks a lot like a sleeve, but by the time it gets to the bottom you can't tell what is going on with the folds. And if you follow the fur trim/lining on the center front opening it jumps from the surcoat to the gown as it reaches the bottom.
I wonder if this is one of those paintings that was "restored" by someone who didn't understand what the garb was?
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, GÃµcauo <gocauo@...> wrote:
> Cloak/coat(?) Spain, 15th Century
- View Sourcehttp://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo3.htm
Here is an extant cloak with sleeves. Late period male. Don Garcia
There are also Russian coats that have attached sleeves that aren't used
and your arm goes through slit in sleeves. The sleeves were extra long.
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- View SourceThose could be ancestors of the garment I am recalling, but the one I remember was more "Age ofthe cotehardie". It might have had sleeves with slits, though.
--- In SCA-Garb@yahoogroups.com, Matilda Stoyle <matilda.stoyle@...> wrote:
> Hi Rashid,
> Might you be recalling a gardecorps? They show up in manuscript art between mostly between 1250 and 1325ish: