- Beautiful steel engravings of the Queens of Great Britain. These prints are original illustrations from Biogrphical Sketches of the Queens of Great BritainMessage 1 of 3 , Dec 8, 2011View Source"Beautiful steel engravings of the Queens of Great Britain. These prints are original illustrations from Biogrphical Sketches of the Queens of Great Britain from the Normal Conquest to the Reign of Queen Victoria, edited by Mary Howitt. Published in London by W.F. Rutter & Son, 1865. Each print is 7 inches wide by 10 1/2 inches tall.. Each print is very clean and free from damage, discoloration or foxing. The blue border is not part of the print but is there to show the edge of the print."
This one is of Joanna of Navarrel, Queen of Henry IV http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2001-12/6522/870342105-joanna.jpg
(said in my best southern drawl) You want a silver lining to that sad, little, cloud; come sit by me. :)
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: I have another puzzle for you, from the same source.
: Does anyone know of a painting this _could_ be copied from? (I particularly
: like what the artist has done with making the skirt particolored...)
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- If you are looking for a contemporary image this might have come from? I d say No. I ve not seen any image with this type of French hood where the skirts areMessage 2 of 3 , Dec 9, 2011View SourceIf you are looking for a contemporary image this might have come from? I'd say No. I've not seen any image with this type of French hood where the skirts are particolored like this. Most gowns of the time are definitely one color. If you see a second color, that is usually coming from the forepart of the kirtle skirt, or a separate piece of garment called a forepart - which is usually right in the middle of the skirt, with an opening in the gown front to show it off. Or in a rare image, it may be the side or back of the gown skirts hiked up to show off the kirtle fabric.
The rare exception is an image like this where the skirts were checkerboard, which I see more often in men's garments - but not that often overall.
Note that this is an earlier style in general, as the hoods here are very simple.
Definitely nothing that has this odd pose bending over a book. I've seen images with the woman holding a book, but not in this manner. They usually are sitting, very upright with great posture.
There are other problems with this image as well. Her French hood is roughly 1530-40s in style, her Medici collar 1550s, but she's wearing narrow sleeves which is early 1500s-1520s and with a turnback cuff, or 1560s or later with a puff at the shoulder. The Tudors seem to love the large trumpet sleeves. Even if they have non-trumpet sleeves, it is usually very full sleeves unless they are a servant. And a servant would not normally wear such a jewel covered French hood. I've no idea what the yellow thing is supposed to be, other than maybe a linen covering known as a rail. If that is what it is supposed to be, it should be white, not yellow.
In other words, she appears to be a fantasy image or a pastiche of a Tudor, from the mind of a Victorian artist. Sorry.
I'd guide you to my web site of images for early Tudor, but it is currently down, again. Not happy about it, but not your problem.
Lady Joan Silvertoppe
A Gentlewoman's Accounts http://www.kimiko1.com
Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern.
On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Honour Horne-Jaruk wrote:
> Does anyone know of a painting this _could_ be copied from? (I particularly like what the artist has done with making the skirt particolored...)
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