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  • Brad Boda d'Aylward
    NOW I m impressed with the postings to this list. Keep up the good line. Brad
    Message 1 of 1 , Aug 3, 1999
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      NOW I'm impressed with the postings to this list. Keep up the good line.

      Brad

      Chris Nogy wrote:
      >
      > Macsen, I didn't say you beat her into the ground - you replied to specific
      > retorts (you knew from what you spoke, and did not elevate it past that), and
      > that is justified.
      >
      > Others got into it and made it hard.
      >
      > But by that time the froth was already full spew - that is what I am most
      > concerned about in this. I have never seen such a severe knee-jerk reaction
      > from such a group.
      >
      > You are always justified in slapping back at someone who slaps you - if you
      > hold your return to the facts at hand and do not escalate. I have never seen
      > you blow up past what was justified, and I have never seen you back off your
      > ground. It is a good way to live to gain respect - to let folks know that you
      > aren't going to step into their yard ever without an invitation, but you are
      > damn straight not going to let them get one foot into yours without an invite.
      >
      > Here's something I have noticed. Let me know if I am reading this thing wrong.
      >
      > There is a difference between "let's agree to disagree" as it is meant and the
      > often used 'let's agree to disagree, now shut up while I am ahead" that we
      > often see nowdays.
      >
      > The best and most productive communications in a forum of this type revolve
      > around the debate between ideas that clash and people who hold those ideas.
      > The most productive that these debates get is when they are passionate but
      > still working on point-counterpoint. The two extremes - one where somebody
      > says 'shut up and drop it' and the other in which one says 'I'm not gonna try
      > anymore" (guilty) can destroy much opportunity for knowlege.
      >
      > So let's agree that we can disagree and still advance our activity by civil, if
      > passionate, debate on good solid topics, and we will all be much the better for
      > it.
      >
      > So will our next listmaster.
      >
      > Kaz
      >
      > > From: "Bob & Nancy Upson" <wyvern@...>, on 7/30/1999 12:54 PM:
      > > > work hard to make sure they collect facts . In one instance I have
      > > > witnessed one individual - Tracy - get beaten into the ground because she
      > > > asked for information about something she was unsure about, and boy, did
      > > > she get an answer.
      > >
      > > Whoa, Kaz! I've been working very hard to get the list transition
      > > over with and to stay out of this but I want to be damned that the
      > > facts remain clear on the table. =)
      > >
      > > Let's review the sequence of events again:
      > >
      > > 1. Loric asks about back quivers. (No, Loric, there are no dumb
      > > questions -- keep asking!)
      > >
      > > 2. I comment that I know of extensive documentation gathered by
      > > Mistress Kendra. Off the top of my head the one particular item I
      > > recall involved the Bayeux Tapestry.
      > >
      > > 3. Tracy chimes in with a sarcastic, "If we want to believe that
      > > "back quivers"are period we will. And if you choose to emulate
      > > Errol Flynn movies, that too is a matter of choice. I prefer to
      > > reasearch what they did do first and emulate that-not find
      > > justification for preference. "
      > >
      > > 4. Tracy gets beaten into the ground for both her snobbish attitude
      > > ("emulating Errorl Flynn movies") and for insulting Kendra's
      > > intelligence and my own ("if we want to believe back quivers are
      > > period we will") -- obviously *her* failure to find documentation
      > > means that Mistress Kendra's is suspect and I'm wrong for having
      > > the temerity to contradict her preconceived notions.
      > >
      > > 5. Straw breaks camel's back. List moves elsewhere.
      > >
      > > Macsen
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