Ok folks, I detect a gross misunderstanding that shows signs of brewing
into a flame-war. To whit: the handicapped thread.
To whomever "Rlongbow@..." is: Near as I remember without rereading
all the handicapped thread, the beginnings of it were more of a
"humm...what can we do to make their lives a little easier, so that they
have more fun??" Nobody was talking about rewriting rules, moving
battlefields or any of the other massive undertakings you fear. In
point of fact, all of the really over the top things have been coming
strictly from you. The thread as originally posited was also a
year-round discussion, not strictly a Pennsic thing, thus the war-point
rules are irrelevant. Also, to the best of my memory, nobody proposed,
or even suggested bending range safety standards in aid of handicapped
archers. As for spotters, I've never seen it done, and am frankly
having a hard time figuring out how it'd work for anybody but a zen
master, but so long as they can do it safely, more power to 'em. As far
as spanning assistants for crossbows, explain to me how this is unsafe?
I have several large (+250#) bows, and they take a while to span. I
have on occasion been known to draft a few trusted friends to be my
loading crew, just to see how fast we could get them moving.
If there's nothing particularly unsafe about doing it with high-poundage
bows that weigh an awkward ton, why then does it become dangerous with
little toy bows? (Don't appeal to the almighty rules, explain to me why
*you* believe this to be true.)
Sorry, I intended this to be a conciliatory "cease fire" message, and
I've been verging into flame-bait myself, for which I apologize.
The point of the original discussion was to try to think of ways to help
our friends have more fun, not to drag lawyers, ADA & Cement contractors
Essentially, the SCA is what we all do to *have fun*. If it stops being
fun, it'll stop happening, and that would be "bad" (tm).
I'm frankly not sure where you got the idea that anyone was proposing
any of the wild things you seem to be worried about, much less
threatening to sue if they didn't come to pass. We were simply mulling
over a few ideas among ourselves to try to make everyone's life a little
easier. Since the subject so obviously concerns you, I'm sure you must
have some constructive comments to add to the discussion.
- At 07:09 PM 8/30/99 -0700, Alberic <alberic@...> wrote:
>The point of the original discussion was to try to think of ways to helpAnd, quite frankly, there are some places where archery participation is so
>our friends have more fun, not to drag lawyers, ADA & Cement contractors
>Essentially, the SCA is what we all do to *have fun*. If it stops being
>fun, it'll stop happening, and that would be "bad" (tm).
limited that we would do darn near anything to get more folks out shooting.
Making archery more accessible to the handicapped isn't just a courteous
thing to do; it's also a lot more practical than many things we've already
done locally (most of which have completely failed at raising interest from
other segments of the SCA population).
- don't worry about the flames, they are all directed solely toward me.
unfortunately, those who are continueing this thread seem to have
omitted the original post. Making me seem the author of " handicapped people
should not be allowed to participate in archery" or some such bull.
I never said handicapped archers should not shoot, I said ANY UNSAFE
ARCHER should not shoot.
I said the rules prohibit spotters or aid DURING WARPOINT AT PENNSIC,
read the Pennsic handbook, there is nothing mentioned about exceptions; at
least nothing near where it says no spotters. I have noticed that some people
try to get away with a lot in archery unless it's specifically
prohibited.(flame tinder here)
the original thread (which was omitted ) was "how to make Pennsic
archery more accessible to the handicapped. and the omitted proposals were
moving the archery field , providing a transport service or "doing something"
to make the field more wheelchair accessible (paved path?).
- I am declaring a cease fire on this issue and ask all others to do the same.
May your arrows fly swiftly and may they hit their target firmly...
Lady Ayesha of the Flowing Sands