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  • John R. Edgerton
    Whoops ... yes the score sheet. Thanks Jon ... Whoops ... yes the score sheet. Thanks Jon Chris Ivins wrote: Sir Jon, you mean the score
    Message 1 of 14 , Sep 17, 2013
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      Whoops ... yes the score sheet.

      Thanks

      Jon

      Chris Ivins <yuriilev@...> wrote:

      Sir Jon, you mean the score sheet, not the score, right?  ;-)

      It's a work in progress, I'm not a very good designer or anything even close. Because of the types of scoring columns recommended for the shoot, I wasn't able to have all of the boxes to write in the Branch, Bow division, Rank in division, or Youth categories, but i left room to the side of each score area to write in that information for each shooter. I hope this is moderately acceptable, and if someone has done something better, I'll gladly use it instead.

      - In Service,

      HL Iurii Levchenich, Junior TAM
      Deputy to the Honorable Lady Johanna Trewpeny, Adiantum Archery Marshal
      Arcuarius to Gawin of Kevelioc




      From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:11 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC



      Could you post the score here when it is complete so that others could use it as well. 

      Jon


      From: Chris Ivins <yuriilev@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:33 AM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

       
      Huzzah! I've been looking forward to being able to shoot this one!
      (I'm already working on a score sheet for our local group to use)

      - Iurii



      From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:10 PM
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC



      The poll has shown that the SSAC Fall competition will be the Lucky Target.

      Jon










    • John Edgerton
      Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be
      Message 2 of 14 , Sep 20, 2013
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        Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 
        Thank you 

        Jon
        *****************************

        Rules for SSAC - Lucky Target

        The Scorekeeper last approved scores for this shoot on: unknown

        Shoot Begins: Tuesday, October 1, 2013
        Shoot Ends: Tuesday, December 31, 2013
        Scores must be Submitted by: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 and within 7 days of being shot.

        Rules:
        This competition seems to have begun in the Netherlands in the 1400’s. There is a period illustration showing part of a circular target where there are numerical values in arcs of the circle. And there is mention of square targets with a series of smaller squares of different values.

        Target:
        The target face is 20 inches on a side and the small squares are 4 inches square. There are twenty-five squares in total. The target is placed with one corner pointing upward, as per the drawing below. The numbers are placed as shown in the drawing and should be large enough to be read at twenty yards. The lines should also be visible but no wider than 1/4 inch.


        Ranges:
        The Adult distance is 20 yards.
        Youth division is 10 yards.

        Running the Shoot:
        The number of ends is two, each of six arrows.

        Scoring:
        The scoring is value of the box hit. Lines count as the higher score. A square may only be hit once for score. Repeated hits to the same square by the same archer to do not count for additional score. The maximum score per end is 135, for a maximum total of 270 points. The score sheets should provide space for each Arrow's score (1-6) in each End (A, B) in a vertical column for ease in totaling. There should be a total for each end and a grand total.

        Please record the scores for each End starting with the highest scoring arrow to the lowest, with zeros entered for repeats or misses for any remaining arrows.

        This shoot was suggested by:
        Sir Jon

        ***************

        SSAC General Rules


        These General Rules apply to all SSAC component shoots. The various component shoots will have their own rules and target definitions within this framework.
        There are two categories: Open and Period. Each category has two divisions: Handbow and Crossbow. There will be a Youth division as well. The ranges, targets, etc. would be adjusted accordingly for the Youth Division within each shoot. The definition of `Youth` will follow those of the Youth Division of the IKAC, however due to the timeframe of each shoot there will only be a single overall Youth Division.
        The equipment rules for the Open and Period divisions would follow those of the IKAC for Handbow and Crossbow with the exception of the Period Crossbow Division which is defined as the following. To be classify as a Period Crossbow all the following conditions must be met: 1) The stock must be made of wood. 2) It may not have a rifle-style butt. 3) It may not have a modern style lock (period forms of self-resetting mechanisms are fine, however) or a modern style trigger. 4) It may not have modern style sights, but may have a period style rear sight only (no front sight allowed).
        Questions regarding the competition should be addressed to the originator of the competition, whose contact information will be included in the rules, and to Sir Jon to be ensure the clarifications are published to the SCA-Archery group.The rules for each of the SSAC shall be determined by the originator of the competition, but should fall within the guildlines of the General Rules and the guidance of the SCA-Archery group.
        The rules for the Crossbow Divisions may vary from the rules for the Handbow divisions. However, the rules for the Open and Period categories will remain the same.
        Scores will be submitted to the SCA Scores Site for tabulation within one week of being shot. All information required by each competition must be included or the scores may be considered void, this includes; Event Name and Host, Event Date, Marshal, as well as the Archers Home Group, Mundane, and Scadian names. For scores submitted to the Youth Division, it must include the age of the archer.
        The winners of each division will be determined only by the highest score of each archer in the division. There will be no `three score average` for the SSAC. No winning kingdoms, only friendly competition among like minded archers. Though kingdoms are encouraged to recognize their archers approprately.
         
      • David Edwards
        Jon, I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a
        Message 3 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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          Jon,

           

          I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

           

          From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
          Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
          To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

           

           

          Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

          Thank you 

           

          Jon

          *****************************

          Rules for SSAC - Lucky Target

          The Scorekeeper last approved scores for this shoot on: unknown

          Shoot Begins: Tuesday, October 1, 2013
          Shoot Ends: Tuesday, December 31, 2013
          Scores must be Submitted by: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 and within 7 days of being shot.

          Rules:
          This competition seems to have begun in the Netherlands in the 1400’s. There is a period illustration showing part of a circular target where there are numerical values in arcs of the circle. And there is mention of square targets with a series of smaller squares of different values.

          Target:
          The target face is 20 inches on a side and the small squares are 4 inches square. There are twenty-five squares in total. The target is placed with one corner pointing upward, as per the drawing below. The numbers are placed as shown in the drawing and should be large enough to be read at twenty yards. The lines should also be visible but no wider than 1/4 inch.



          Ranges:
          The Adult distance is 20 yards.
          Youth division is 10 yards.

          Running the Shoot:
          The number of ends is two, each of six arrows.

          Scoring:
          The scoring is value of the box hit. Lines count as the higher score. A square may only be hit once for score. Repeated hits to the same square by the same archer to do not count for additional score. The maximum score per end is 135, for a maximum total of 270 points. The score sheets should provide space for each Arrow's score (1-6) in each End (A, B) in a vertical column for ease in totaling. There should be a total for each end and a grand total.

          Please record the scores for each End starting with the highest scoring arrow to the lowest, with zeros entered for repeats or misses for any remaining arrows.

          This shoot was suggested by:
          Sir Jon

          ***************

          SSAC General Rules

           

          These General Rules apply to all SSAC component shoots. The various component shoots will have their own rules and target definitions within this framework.

          There are two categories: Open and Period. Each category has two divisions: Handbow and Crossbow. There will be a Youth division as well. The ranges, targets, etc. would be adjusted accordingly for the Youth Division within each shoot. The definition of `Youth` will follow those of the Youth Division of the IKAC, however due to the timeframe of each shoot there will only be a single overall Youth Division.

          The equipment rules for the Open and Period divisions would follow those of the IKAC for Handbow and Crossbow with the exception of the Period Crossbow Division which is defined as the following. To be classify as a Period Crossbow all the following conditions must be met: 1) The stock must be made of wood. 2) It may not have a rifle-style butt. 3) It may not have a modern style lock (period forms of self-resetting mechanisms are fine, however) or a modern style trigger. 4) It may not have modern style sights, but may have a period style rear sight only (no front sight allowed).

          Questions regarding the competition should be addressed to the originator of the competition, whose contact information will be included in the rules, and to Sir Jon to be ensure the clarifications are published to the SCA-Archery group.The rules for each of the SSAC shall be determined by the originator of the competition, but should fall within the guildlines of the General Rules and the guidance of the SCA-Archery group.

          The rules for the Crossbow Divisions may vary from the rules for the Handbow divisions. However, the rules for the Open and Period categories will remain the same.

          Scores will be submitted to the SCA Scores Site for tabulation within one week of being shot. All information required by each competition must be included or the scores may be considered void, this includes; Event Name and Host, Event Date, Marshal, as well as the Archers Home Group, Mundane, and Scadian names. For scores submitted to the Youth Division, it must include the age of the archer.

          The winners of each division will be determined only by the highest score of each archer in the division. There will be no `three score average` for the SSAC. No winning kingdoms, only friendly competition among like minded archers. Though kingdoms are encouraged to recognize their archers approprately.

           

        • Jonathas
          David, To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on. If you don t have an account you need to contact your Kingdom s Archery Marshal and
          Message 4 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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            David,

            To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on.  If you don't have an account you need to contact your Kingdom's Archery Marshal and request one, if you are in one of the few Kingdoms not using the scores site let me know and I can create an account for you.

            Jonathas


            On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:
             

            Jon,

             

            I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

             

            From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
            Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
            To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

             

             

            Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

            Thank you 

             

            Jon

            *****************************


          • Cleve Johnson
            Jon, I had an account,for the scores site, but I do not remember my login or password How can I find out what they were? *Lord Eadric of Grenefelda*
            Message 5 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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              Jon, I had an account,for the scores site, but I do not remember my login or password  How can I find out what they were?



              Lord Eadric of Grenefelda
              Constellation Regional Archery Marshal
              Order of the Dragon's Barb, AoA
              Order of the Golden Tower, Orion's Belt, Award of the Nova, Yeoman
               Pandus planto populus mico.
              (Archers make people quiver.)
               


              On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jonathas <Jonathas@...> wrote:
               

              David,

              To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on.  If you don't have an account you need to contact your Kingdom's Archery Marshal and request one, if you are in one of the few Kingdoms not using the scores site let me know and I can create an account for you.

              Jonathas


              On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:
               

              Jon,

               

              I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

               

              From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
              Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
              To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

               

               

              Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

              Thank you 

               

              Jon

              *****************************



            • Jonathas
              Eadric, You can find your Username and/or your Password using the Forgotten Password link which can be found on the Marshal s Logon page. Since you don t
              Message 6 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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                Eadric,

                You can find your Username and/or your Password using the 'Forgotten Password' link which can be found on the Marshal's Logon page.  Since you don't know your username just enter your email address and it will send you both.

                Jonathas



                On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Cleve Johnson <eadric.of.grenfeld@...> wrote:
                 

                Jon, I had an account,for the scores site, but I do not remember my login or password  How can I find out what they were?



                Lord Eadric of Grenefelda
                Constellation Regional Archery Marshal
                Order of the Dragon's Barb, AoA
                Order of the Golden Tower, Orion's Belt, Award of the Nova, Yeoman
                 Pandus planto populus mico.
                (Archers make people quiver.)

              • David Edwards
                I am the Baronial Archery Captain for Gyldenholt, in Caid. I don t think Caid uses the scores site. From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                Message 7 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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                  I am the Baronial Archery Captain for Gyldenholt, in Caid. I don’t think Caid uses the scores site.

                   

                  From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathas
                  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:27 AM
                  To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                   

                   

                  David,

                  To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on.  If you don't have an account you need to contact your Kingdom's Archery Marshal and request one, if you are in one of the few Kingdoms not using the scores site let me know and I can create an account for you.

                  Jonathas

                   

                  On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:

                   

                  Jon,

                   

                  I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

                   

                  From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
                  Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
                  To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                   

                   

                  Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

                  Thank you 

                   

                  Jon

                  *****************************

                   

                • Cleve Johnson
                  Thank you! *Lord Eadric of Grenefelda* *Constellation Regional Archery Marshal* *Order of the Dragon s Barb, AoA* *Order of the Golden Tower, Orion s Belt,
                  Message 8 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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                    Thank you!

                    Lord Eadric of Grenefelda
                    Constellation Regional Archery Marshal
                    Order of the Dragon's Barb, AoA
                    Order of the Golden Tower, Orion's Belt, Award of the Nova, Yeoman
                     Pandus planto populus mico.
                    (Archers make people quiver.)
                     


                    On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Jonathas <Jonathas@...> wrote:
                     

                    Eadric,

                    You can find your Username and/or your Password using the 'Forgotten Password' link which can be found on the Marshal's Logon page.  Since you don't know your username just enter your email address and it will send you both.

                    Jonathas




                    On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Cleve Johnson <eadric.of.grenfeld@...> wrote:
                     

                    Jon, I had an account,for the scores site, but I do not remember my login or password  How can I find out what they were?



                    Lord Eadric of Grenefelda
                    Constellation Regional Archery Marshal
                    Order of the Dragon's Barb, AoA
                    Order of the Golden Tower, Orion's Belt, Award of the Nova, Yeoman
                     Pandus planto populus mico.
                    (Archers make people quiver.)


                  • Jonathas
                    Wow, you did find one of the few Kingdoms not using it. Though Caid is using it for your Thrown Weapons scores. Can you send me your information off list and I
                    Message 9 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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                      Wow, you did find one of the few Kingdoms not using it. Though Caid is using it for your Thrown Weapons scores.

                      Can you send me your information off list and I will setup an account for you.

                      Jonathas


                      On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:56 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:
                       

                      I am the Baronial Archery Captain for Gyldenholt, in Caid. I don’t think Caid uses the scores site.

                       

                      From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathas
                      Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:27 AM
                      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                       

                       

                      David,

                      To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on.  If you don't have an account you need to contact your Kingdom's Archery Marshal and request one, if you are in one of the few Kingdoms not using the scores site let me know and I can create an account for you.

                      Jonathas

                       

                      On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:

                       

                      Jon,

                       

                      I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

                       

                      From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
                      Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
                      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                       

                       

                      Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

                      Thank you 

                       

                      Jon

                      *****************************

                       


                    • JonThomme De Claydon
                      I am new to posting scores here. I know I don t have a log in. I am sure my Captain Robin does not either. I wonder if Christoph has access? This could be
                      Message 10 of 14 , Nov 22, 2013
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                        I am new to posting scores here. I know I don't have a log in. I am sure my Captain "Robin" does not either. I wonder if Christoph has access? This could be one reason Caid is not represented here.
                        JT


                        On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:
                         

                        I am the Baronial Archery Captain for Gyldenholt, in Caid. I don’t think Caid uses the scores site.

                         

                        From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathas
                        Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:27 AM
                        To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                         

                         

                        David,

                        To submit scores you need to have a marshal account and logged on.  If you don't have an account you need to contact your Kingdom's Archery Marshal and request one, if you are in one of the few Kingdoms not using the scores site let me know and I can create an account for you.

                        Jonathas

                         

                        On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM, David Edwards <davidedw@...> wrote:

                         

                        Jon,

                         

                        I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to post SSAC scores and I’m damned if I can find it. The link you provide leads to a page with a bunch of discussion about the shoot on it but I don’t find any place to enter scores. What am I missing?

                         

                        From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Edgerton
                        Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:51 AM
                        To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com; SCA-West-Archery@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [SCA-Archery] Fall SSAC

                         

                         

                        Here are the rules for the Fall Society Seasonal Archery Competition and the general rules for the SSAC.  Please forward them to anyone that may be interested. 

                        Thank you 

                         

                        Jon

                        *****************************

                         




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                        Silver for the maid
                        Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade.
                        "Good" said the Baron sitting in his hall,
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