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  • Chris Ivins
    Maye it is just a problem with Yahoo (boy, that sure sounds familiar), but I am unable to view the image. - Iurii ... Maye it is just a problem with Yahoo
    Message 1 of 42 , Sep 13, 2013
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      Maye it is just a problem with Yahoo (boy, that sure sounds familiar), but I am unable to view the image.

      - Iurii



      From: "Groff, Garth (ggg9y)" <ggg9y@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:50 AM
      Subject: RE: [SCA-Archery] RE: Arrow shelf



      Sir Jon,
       
      I don’t recall if the piece had a date. Since it was found in the Thames, it is out of any context that would allow specific dating.
       
      Yes, I will allow that it might actually be something else, but it is recorded by the MoL as an arrow rest.
       
      When we have our web site up, or for Q&Q, this might be an interesting bit of research for someone to look into. I found the MoL staff to be very helpful, and I know this thing has been photographed by them. It does not show on their web collection however.
       
      Yours Aye,
       
       
      Mungo
       
      From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John R. Edgerton
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:31 PM
      Cc: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [SCA-Archery] RE: Arrow shelf
       


      Any idea what the approximate date is for this?

      I think I may have seen this before. But, to me,it looked more like a fancy nock reinforcement for a bow limb.

      Finds have been mislabeled by museums before.

      Jon

      "Groff, Garth (ggg9y)" <ggg9y@...> wrote:

       
      Brother John, Greetings.
       
      The Museum of London has an elaborately carved arrow rest in its collection that was found in the Thames. This was apparently bound to a bowstave, and thus could be easily reused when a bow wore out. I’ve seen a picture of it, but there is currently no image available at the MofL web site.
       
      Yours Aye,
       
       
      Mungo
       
      From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brotherjohn66@...
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:09 AM
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] RE: Arrow shelf
       




       Did Marco De Varona bring back any photographs?  If so I'd like to see them. Of all the extant longbows, not one that I am aware has an arrow rest. And I've never seen an arrow rest in medieval illustrations. I'm not saying that you're incorrect, just that(for myself), I need better documentation.
       
       
      John Wayland
       


      --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, <sca-archery@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      They are period. Marco De Verona has establi shed this in a trip to England.











    • Guy Taylor
      Klancey, I really don t want to start an argument with you but don t you think this is just a slightly silly response to all this? a. No one is saying you
      Message 42 of 42 , Sep 15, 2013
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        Klancey, I really don't want to start an argument with you but don't
        you think this is just a slightly silly response to all this?
        a. No one is saying you can't use an arrow rest on your bow... no one!
        b. If you want to wear a glove or some other sort of hand protection
        then do so. Who has said you can't?
        c. If your arrows are such that you fear getting feathers poked into
        your skin then you need better or different arrows... period.

        If an SCA archer wants to participate in "period" archery then there
        are certain equipment standards to adhere to. The leaders of SCA
        archery have determined those standards. If you don't like them you
        don't have to follow them, you just can't register in the period class
        if you choose not to follow those standards.

        This all seems pretty straightforward to me. I really don't see why so
        many people are getting their tights in a bunch over it.

        Taillear

        On 9/14/13, larry phillips <klancey1@...> wrote:
        > Perhaps there were no bows used back then, which would alleviate the
        > need for "proof" of hand grips and arrow rests. This in itself is good
        > reason to not play the game.....who in their right mind gives two flying
        > fornications if an innocuous piece of wood saves a shooter from visiting
        > the ER with possibly limb threatening wounds from embedded fletchs? If
        > we are going to be that precise, camp without heaters and lanterns, long
        > johns and coolers, cell phones and Ipads........
        > Klancey
        >


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