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Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Who shoots "one eye shut?" Both eyes? and more

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  • Oscar Van Loveren 000724 recon
    As a professional pilot of 26 years I have to call urban legend on that part. Yes, there are people with exceptional eyesight. Pilots are 20/20 correctable. No
    Message 1 of 28 , May 17, 2013
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      As a professional pilot of 26 years I have to call urban
      legend on that part. Yes, there are people with exceptional
      eyesight. Pilots are 20/20 correctable. No more, no less.

      Goerijs.


      > I think Stan Lee did a thing on his Real Life Super
      > Heroes show about people with extraordinary eyesight.
      > The program said that pilots and some other folks simply
      > see much better than the average person because they have
      > more rods and cones. Byron Ferguson was one of those
      > people in the show. There is a YouTube of Byron shooting
      > out the flame of a candle. On his first shot he
      > accomplishes the task but then says "Well I missed with
      > that one. It was the fletches that hit the flame." It
      > takes pretty good eyes to actually see that! In this
      > thread some have discussed wearing glasses and having
      > damaged eyes. Perhaps one major factor in shooting
      > extraordinarily well is having extraordinary vision. I
      > know for myself when folks say "Aim for the little X in
      > the middle of the target" at 40 yards I respond with
      > "There's a target at 40 yards?" :-) .
      >
      > You just can't hit what you can't see.
      >
      > cog
      >

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    • Oscar Van Loveren 000724 recon
      OK, I m sold. Goerijs. ... Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/
      Message 2 of 28 , May 17, 2013
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        OK, I'm sold.

        Goerijs.


        > Just FYI - Samuel ap Dewi (Ansteorra) shoots GAP and
        > shoots 120+
        >
        > Vincenti
        >
        >
        > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Oscar Van Loveren 000724
        > recon <
        > oscar@...> wrote:
        >
        > > I would like to add something to this discussion. I too
        > > have read Byron's book and agree that with a LOT, and I
        > > mean a LOT of practice one can learn to "be the arrow"
        > and
        > > hit anything that moves without knowing the distance
        > and
        > > without thinking about it.
        > >
        > > It is how most, if not all of our Grand Masters shoot.
        > >
        > > That said, not many have the time dedicated to learning
        > to
        > > shoot like that. Gap shooting gives better results
        > > initially and quicker. I will accept the argument that
        > you
        > > will never become someone who can shoot at anything
        > > anytime, but face it, most of our targets are at
        > > 20-30-40-50-60 feet......
        > >
        > > So, if you have limited time, and want to become a
        > > reasonable shooter faster, and realize that you will
        > never
        > > shoot 110+......
        > >
        > > Food for thought.
        > >
        > >
        > > > I have been taught to shoot with both eyes open since
        > the
        > > > first time I picked up a bow as a little boy.
        > > >
        > > > I am naturally left handed, and right-eye dominant,
        > so I
        > > > shoot a right handed bow. I shoot strictly
        > "instinctive"
        > > > (for lack of a better term), not gap shooting or some
        > > > other "aiming" method. I try to follow Byron
        > Ferguson's
        > > > method he calls "Become the Arrow." This involves
        > > > focusing entirely on the target itself, rather than
        > the
        > > > tip of the arrow in relation to the target.
        > > >
        > > > As such, both eyes open is *absolutely* critical in
        > this
        > > > method. When you close one eye your depth perception
        > is
        > > > somewhat altered, which would make a huge difference.
        > I
        > > > would imagine, with sufficient practice, it would be
        > > > possible to overcome this, but considering how long
        > I've
        > > > shot with both eyes open... I doubt I'll be switching
        > any
        > > > time soon.
        > > >
        > > > In fact, the only time I recall shooting a bow "one
        > eye
        > > > closed" was during my "confused teenage years" when I
        > > > shot one of those modern contraptions that pass for
        > bows
        > > > these days... You know, the ones with "training
        > wheels"?
        > > > ^^
        > > >
        > > > --Edmund of Penyngton
        > > >
        > > > Live Weapons Marshal
        > > >
        > > > Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
        > > > Shire of Coill Fhionnabhann
        > > >
        > > > --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com,
        > "aelric_southlake"
        > > > <magnetcoil@...> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > Greetings, strange question (?) here...
        > > > >
        > > > > Was talking to a guy who once shot traditional at a
        > > > national level, and he mentioned that he shoots with
        > one
        > > > eye shut. It dawned on me that I had never tried
        > that,
        > > > nor had even THOUGHT about it - which is weird
        > because I
        > > > shoot rifles with one eye shut.
        > > > >
        > > > > I am completely self taught as far as archery goes
        > > > (need some real lessons), and was wondering if it
        > isn't
        > > > just common sense, or something, to shoot with one
        > eye,
        > > > or if that's some kind of "higher level" technique.
        > > > >
        > > > > I tried it earlier today with unpleasant results,
        > ha ha
        > > > ha. I think, now that I've been doing it "my" way,
        > it'd
        > > > be a hard adjustment.
        > > > >
        > > > > How do you all out there shoot - one eye or two?
        > > > Anyone have the skinny on the rhymes or reasons for
        > > > either way? Does it matter?
        > > > >
        > > > > As always, thanks for any replies,
        > > > > Aelric, West K.
        > > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > >
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