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  • John R. Edgerton
    Yes,I put that option in the rules in case anyone was unable to assume any of the positions. However, if the majority feel that the crouching stance is too
    Message 1 of 11 , Apr 21 10:29 AM
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      Yes,I put that option in the rules in case anyone was unable to assume any of the positions. However, if the majority feel that the crouching stance is too difficult,I can drop it. The closest stance to crouching would be standing.

      However,it is possible that some archers that are capable of shooting in that stance might opt for standing in order to get a better score. Any thoughts on this?

      Jon

      Rusty McMillan <randal_of_camusfearna@...> wrote:

       

      Everyone, don't forget the portion of the rules that states:

      "If an archer, due to a disability or injury, can not assume a stance, they may assume one of the other stances which is most similar to it with the approval of the marshal."

      This handles the fact that no matter what five or six stances we choose, somebody won't be able to achieve them all.

      Randal

      --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
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      > The current draft of the Random Stance has a change to the crouching.
      >
      > "5) Crouching, both knees bent at approximately a ninety degree angle. (The
      > archer only has to crouch while aiming and releasing. They may stand while
      > nocking and drawing.)"
      >
      > I am 71 with arthritis and a bad back and a bad knee and I can just barely
      > manage the stance. But, I can do it.
      >
      > However, if anyone can come up with a good replacement we can either use that or
      > just drop the "Crouching" and change it to five stances.
      >
      > Jon

    • John R. Edgerton
      I have found period examples of two other stances. The first from medieval India has the archer standing one leg while the foot of the other leg is pressed
      Message 2 of 11 , Apr 21 11:29 AM
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        I have found period examples of two other stances. The first from medieval India has the archer standing one leg while the foot of the other leg is pressed against that knee.

        The second,also from India is seated on the ground with the legs crossed and the feet resting on top of the opposite thigh. A basic Yoga position.

        The one leg stance could be modified to just standing on one leg with the other not touching the ground. This stance to be held while aiming and loosing. Otherwise it could present problems for cocking crossbows.

        Jon

        "John R. Edgerton" <sirjon1@...> wrote:

         

        Yes,I put that option in the rules in case anyone was unable to assume any of the positions. However, if the majority feel that the crouching stance is too difficult,I can drop it. The closest stance to crouching would be standing.

        However,it is possible that some archers that are capable of shooting in that stance might opt for standing in order to get a better score. Any thoughts on this?

        Jon

        Rusty McMillan <randal_of_camusfearna@...> wrote:

         

        Everyone, don't forget the portion of the rules that states:

        "If an archer, due to a disability or injury, can not assume a stance, they may assume one of the other stances which is most similar to it with the approval of the marshal."

        This handles the fact that no matter what five or six stances we choose, somebody won't be able to achieve them all.

        Randal

        --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
        >
        > The current draft of the Random Stance has a change to the crouching.
        >
        > "5) Crouching, both knees bent at approximately a ninety degree angle. (The
        > archer only has to crouch while aiming and releasing. They may stand while
        > nocking and drawing.)"
        >
        > I am 71 with arthritis and a bad back and a bad knee and I can just barely
        > manage the stance. But, I can do it.
        >
        > However, if anyone can come up with a good replacement we can either use that or
        > just drop the "Crouching" and change it to five stances.
        >
        > Jon

      • Rusty McMillan
        Jon, While I will of course go along with whatever the majority decides, I don t feel the crouching stance needs to be eliminated. Those who have difficulty
        Message 3 of 11 , Apr 21 1:35 PM
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          Jon,

          While I will of course go along with whatever the majority decides, I
          don't feel the crouching stance needs to be eliminated. Those who have
          difficulty bending the knees to 90 degrees could bend as much as is
          comfortable/safe for them.

          As for the potential scenario you describe of archers opting out of
          crouching just to gain an advantage, I prefer to believe that in
          archery, as in all SCA martial activities, we are on our honor to treat
          chivalrously with other competitors, and I would hope that such behavior
          would not occur.

          Randal


          --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "John R. Edgerton" wrote:
          >
          > Yes,I put that option in the rules in case anyone was unable to assume
          any of the positions. However, if the majority feel that the crouching
          stance is too difficult,I can drop it. The closest stance to crouching
          would be standing.
          >
          > However,it is possible that some archers that are capable of shooting
          in that stance might opt for standing in order to get a better score.
          Any thoughts on this?
          >
          > Jon
          >
          > Rusty McMillan randal_of_camusfearna@... wrote:
          >
          > >Everyone, don't forget the portion of the rules that states:
          > >
          > >"If an archer, due to a disability or injury, can not assume a
          stance, they may assume one of the other stances which is most similar
          to it with the approval of the marshal."
          > >
          > >This handles the fact that no matter what five or six stances we
          choose, somebody won't be able to achieve them all.
          > >
          > >Randal
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