RE: [SCA-Archery] Wooden arrows banned from archery ranges?
- Having rebuilt the butts at the Calgary Archery Centre (largest indoor lanes in Canada) countless times, I can tell you we pull out more carbon inset points that field points.
Even so Calgary Archery Centre is one of the few indoor ranges that allows for wooden arrows with field points however.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 11:54:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Wooden arrows banned from archery ranges?Thanks, James.Yes, the American Whitetail targets that Vic Bowmen use are about $500 each, and are quite firm, particularly in the center. Thanks for relaying the info, I'm going to monitor arrow damage caused by field points left behind, and consider such a policy at my range.And yes, the upper end of arrows are expensive. Mine are "reasonable" at $400 / dozen. X-10's with tungsten points are near $600...William ArwemakerePresident, Burnaby ArchersCo-chair, Richmond Rod & Gun club archeryOn Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:35 AM, <baron.james.llewellyn@...> wrote:Similar risks except that most of the modern archers pay substantially more for their equipment and, on these ranges, they substantially outnumber us. We are the poor cousins in the minority and money talks.James Llewellyn ap GruffyddSent from Windows MailFrom: JonThomme De Claydon
Sent: April 7, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Wooden arrows banned from archery ranges?I find this to be a rare circumstance. Are not we at the same risk of damaged arrows? Is there not some inherent risk of equipment when launching your toys down range?On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Ken Dolphin <kldolphin@...> wrote:They may be talking about losing tips in the target. The tips we use can cause damage to carbon fibre arrows if they are left in the butt.Kenneth of ShaftesburySent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:25 AMSubject: [SCA-Archery] Wooden arrows banned from archery ranges?Recently I decided to take a few archery classes through a countyprogram where my girlfriend lives. When I got to the range I saw
several signs stating "NO wooden arrows allowed".
When I asked about this ban I was told "Wooden arrows have a tendency to
break inside the target and damage other arrows."
Has anyone else encountered such a ban?
Since I've *never* seen an arrow break inside a target; has anyone ever
seen a wooden arrow break inside a target?
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Gold is for the mistress
Silver for the maid
Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade.
"Good" said the Baron sitting in his hall,
But iron, cold iron is master of them all.
- JonathasHey, be happy and brag about the accomplishment! YOU are ranked higher then the Archos!!! As I said to one of my local archers, "Right now you are the best handbow shooter in the entire SCA!!! Based on the current SSAC anyway." Which was a true statement, since she had submitted the only handbow score at that point. Enjoy it while it lasts!Iurii,To answer your question, yes the system is working properly you are currently ranked higher then the Archos, but then currently the system does not have the full picture.
Don't forget that right now the GAT is based on a *VERY* limited data set, that is only the SSACs and IKACs. If you shot all of these and the Archos in question only shot one of them, then yes in the GAT you would rank higher, as you have been more active in shooting. Now once you both have 5 shoots, if the Archos does better in those shoots then he will rank higher then you. Here in lies one of the BIG differences between the RR rankings that everyone is used to and the GAT. In the RR you do not have a rank (aka average) at all until you have 3 scores, with the GAT as soon as you have one score you have a rank although it is not all that it could be since it is truly based on 5 scores. This was choosen to encourage people to shoot more, yet not allow someone who enters absolutely everything yet does very poorly to come out on top. A decent active archer should enter at least 5 events a year, especially with the SSAC and IKAC filling in the gaps, and if they enter more events then only the best five are used.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Chris Ivins <yuriilev@...> wrote:I'm a bit confused about the ranking order on the current list, according to it's system, I'm actually ranked higher than an Archos in my local area, and his scores are much higher than mine, by any comparison. Is this just because the system is getting ironed out, or am I missing something critical in the formula?- In Service,Lord Iurii Levchenich, Junior TAMDeputy to the Honorable Lady Johanna Trewpeny, Adiantum Archery MarshalArcuarius to Gawin of Kevelioc