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Re: [SCA-Archery] Junior Royal Rounds?

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  • Ken Dolphin
    in An Tir we have Tyro 10 - 19 Novice 20 - 39 Archer 40 - 59 Bowman
    Message 1 of 34 , Jan 11, 2013
      in An Tir we have
      Tyro                               10 - 19
      Novice                            20 - 39
      Archer                            40 - 59
      Bowman                         60 - 79
      Master Bowman              80 - 99
      Grandmaster Bowman    100 - 119 
      Ludicrous Bowman         120 - 139
      As we now have an archer who has anaverage over 140, we need a new category.
      At our local range we have been known to have children, youthas and adults shooting together. Makes it a little slower for the adults but no one seems to mind. We all love the opportunity to help our young ones to have fun and to succeed in their own categories.
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      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Junior Royal Rounds?


      Suzane, getting back to some more of your original post. In the various Kingdoms,
      the Royal Round is fairly standard but the score ranges for badge ranks, and the
      names/titles for the rankings can vary quite a bit. East Kingdom is as follows:
      Badge Rank             RR avg (average of highest 3 scores of last 12 months)
      Archer                  0 - 39.67
      Marksman               40 - 59.67
      Bowman                 60 - 79.67
      Master Bowman          80 - 99.67
      Grand Master Bowman   100 or more (anything higher would be Ludicrous)
      Ludicrous Bowman      120 or more
      East Kingdom does not have separate rounds for Youth Archers, everyone shoots
      Royal Rounds at 20-30-40 yards. Which is why I started some my own kids shooting
      IKACs in 2003 to help them work their way up. (plus for most younger kids, their
      10-15lb bows do not reach out to 20yds well, let alone 40yds) Looks like a clout
      shoot for 5 year olds!! And that can get pretty frustrating.
      Just my thoughts, I've heard of 5-year old Marksman also,
      Osmond de Berwic

      From: Suzanne Lacey <goldenhind05@...>
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Junior Royal Rounds?
      Yikes! Good thing I asked. Keep the answers coming.

      Suzane Delaplaine

      On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Ken Dolphin <kldolphin@...> wrote:
      In An Tir, children are aged 5 to 11and they shoot at 10, 15, and 20 yards, with a speed round at 10 yds. Youth category is 11 to 14 years old and shoot at 10, 20, and 30 yards, with a speed round at 10 yards. In both of these cases average is top to scores, which can both be shot on one day.
      Senior youth are 15 to 17 and they shoot at 20, 30, and 40 yards with speed round at 20 yards. All of these categories shoot 6 arrows at each distance with an unlimited speed round.
      This is currently under review because of IKAC categories.
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      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:07 PM
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Junior Royal Rounds?

      I'm working on a new Society wide youth archery merit badge (a new thing in the works). Does everyone have a Junior Royal Round, at least on the books? The one in Caid calls for 8 arrows at 20, 15, and 10 yards, no speed end. Rankings for Juniors (14 and under, max draw weight 35#) are the same as for adults, but using the scores from Jr. RRs, so Bowman 25-44 points, Yeoman 45-65 points, etc.
      How about everyone else? I would hate to asssume that's the way everyone does it for badge purposes and find out differently later. I'd *really* appreciate it if folks from different areas would look this up in their kingdom handbooks and post.

    • lekervere
      ... The short answer is: novelty shoots. Shooting at paper for score is engaging for some, but others who do not often hit the center can grow tired of it
      Message 34 of 34 , Jan 14, 2013
        > At any age group, how do you supply encouragement to newer archers?
        The short answer is: novelty shoots.
        Shooting at paper for score is engaging for some, but others who do not often hit the center can grow tired of it fairly soon.
        I run a popinjay prize shoot for young archers a couple times a year. There is no counting for score. If you shoot the bird off the perch, you win the prize. This can keep children age 5 to 15 engaged for 90 minutes or more, even with delays for shooting in three groups because the line is crowded. The small target helps develop instinctive aim, and the shooters are encouraged as they get closer and closer to the bird. Their next shot could win a prize.
        Similar psychology holds for adult shooters. If the target is fun to shoot at, they are less discouraged by misses, and the next shot could be a hit.
        You can't do novelties at every shoot, but if the point of the event is to orient new archers and bring them into the sport, novelties may be the way to go.
        An interesting psychology experiment: for archers that are shooting all around the rim of the target, place a balloon over the bull's eye and see if their scores improve.

        Edward le Kervere
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