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  • Suzanne Lacey
    There s always 3 Rivers (3riversarchery.com). By unwrapped, do you mean the serving is coming unwrapped? If so, you just need a new serving (which you can
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      There's always 3 Rivers (3riversarchery.com). By unwrapped, do you mean the serving is coming unwrapped? If so, you just need a new serving (which you can learn to do yourself), but even so, you'll need a new string eventually. Most archery stores will do a serving for you, and many will carry whatever kind of string you need.

      Suzanne


      On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:
       

      I just went and looked and the string prices are pretty good. Saves you the trip of having to run around town trying to find it:-)

      Vincenti
      Ansteorra


      On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Dayrl Merrill <dmerrill@...> wrote:
       

      you can go to my website www.dmerrill.com put in the specs and order from there if you can't find anyone local.
       
       
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      From: Diana G
      Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:51 PM
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Bow strings

       

      I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one. Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made. Is anyone in SCA making them?
      Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
      AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

      PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.



    • Frank Schalles
      3 RiversArchery is pretty reasonable, and StoneMountain http://stonemountainbowstrings.com sells strings also online. There are alot of string making pages on
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        3 RiversArchery is pretty reasonable, and StoneMountain http://stonemountainbowstrings.com
        sells strings also online. There are alot of string making pages on Google, and a couple of designs
        for endless loop string boards.

        Francois de Lions
        Ansteorra

        On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Diana G <the1huntress@...> wrote:
        I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one.  Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made.  Is anyone in SCA making them?
        Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
        AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

        PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.





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      • Doug Copley
        The string making jigs are not hard to make, the process is fairly easy to make a string. But if all you want is to get one or tow strings periodically, you
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          The string making jigs are not hard to make, the process is fairly easy to make a string.

          But if all you want is to get one or tow strings periodically, you are going to a lot of trouble and a lot of extra expense by the time you buy everything.


          On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Frank Schalles <francisschalles@...> wrote:
           

          3 RiversArchery is pretty reasonable, and StoneMountain http://stonemountainbowstrings.com
          sells strings also online. There are alot of string making pages on Google, and a couple of designs
          for endless loop string boards.

          Francois de Lions
          Ansteorra

          On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Diana G <the1huntress@...> wrote:
          I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one.  Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made.  Is anyone in SCA making them?
          Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
          AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

          PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.





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        • George Ledbury
          ... If you let me know the length of the bow and the draw weight I will make you one and bring it to 12th night. Gawin of Kevelioc
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            On 12/26/2012 7:51 PM, Diana G wrote:
             

            I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one. Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made. Is anyone in SCA making them?
            Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
            AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

            PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.

            If you let me know the length of the bow and the draw weight I will make you one and bring it to 12th night.
            Gawin of Kevelioc

          • John Warns
            try Longbowjohn.com he s in Washington state   From: Doug Copley To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012
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              try Longbowjohn.com he's in Washington state
               

              From: Doug Copley <doug.copley@...>
              To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:27 AM
              Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Bow strings
               
              The string making jigs are not hard to make, the process is fairly easy to make a string.
              But if all you want is to get one or tow strings periodically, you are going to a lot of trouble and a lot of extra expense by the time you buy everything.
              On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Frank Schalles <francisschalles@...> wrote:
               
              3 RiversArchery is pretty reasonable, and StoneMountain http://stonemountainbowstrings.com/
              sells strings also online. There are alot of string making pages on Google, and a couple of designs
              for endless loop string boards.

              Francois de Lions
              Ansteorra

              On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Diana G <the1huntress@...> wrote:
              I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one.  Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made.  Is anyone in SCA making them?
              Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
              AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

              PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.





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            • Frank Schalles
              Greetings my Honored Cousin, Agreed, but I wanted to learn the skill so I could teach it to the Barony archers. The jig wasn t that expensive, an 8 foot board
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                Greetings my Honored Cousin,

                Agreed, but I wanted to learn the skill so I could teach it to the Barony archers. The jig wasn't
                that expensive, an 8 foot board 6 inches wide, a couple 2X2's and some doweling. The hardest
                part was drilling the holes and gluing the dowels. Buying two colors of string, the server jig and the
                serving string will drive the cost up. Best to do it as a group and spread the cost.

                In Service,
                Francois de Lions,
                 

                On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:


                The string making jigs are not hard to make, the process is fairly easy to make a string.

                But if all you want is to get one or tow strings periodically, you are going to a lot of trouble and a lot of extra expense by the time you buy everything.


                On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Frank Schalles <francisschalles@...> wrote:
                 

                3 RiversArchery is pretty reasonable, and StoneMountain http://stonemountainbowstrings.com
                sells strings also online. There are alot of string making pages on Google, and a couple of designs
                for endless loop string boards.

                Francois de Lions
                Ansteorra

                On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Diana G <the1huntress@...> wrote:
                I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one.  Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made.  Is anyone in SCA making them?
                Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
                AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)

                PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.





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              • Mackenzie Morgan
                There was a class at Pennsic on making Flemish Twist strings. It didn t even involve a string making jig. To stretch it at the end, we were told to have a
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                  There was a class at Pennsic on making Flemish Twist strings. It
                  didn't even involve a string making jig. To stretch it at the end, we
                  were told to have a friend hold the loop on one end then yank, or what
                  I did since my bow is shorter than me, was put a finger in each end's
                  loop and stretch my arms out as far as I could.

                  At $12/string in the local archery supply shop, and $20 to get two
                  colors of Dacron to make a Flemish twist string, and about $15 for a
                  serving jig and spool of serving... I'm even after 3 strings. Those
                  two spools of B-50 for $20 contain 2364ft of string. One string for my
                  bow takes 86ft. That's 27 strings for the price of 3 (plus a bit of
                  effort). With 4 archers in the family and several more in the
                  household...I'm calling it a sound investment.

                  Grazia

                  On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:
                  > But if all you want is to get one or tow strings periodically, you are going to a lot of trouble and a lot of extra expense by the time you buy everything.
                • The Greys
                  A bow string is a bow string, right? Not really. While there are endless loop and Flemish, there it becomes a personal choice. HOWEVER, the biggie is
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                    A bow string is a bow string, right? Not really. While there are endless loop and Flemish, there it becomes a personal choice. HOWEVER, the biggie is FastFlight versus Dacron B50 strings. If by "nice recurve" you mean a newer bow, as in when manufactured, FastFlight strings may work. If an older bow a FastFlight string could possible break your bow. FastFlight material is thinner for the same poundage but also less elastic. Older bows, not designed for FastFlight material, require the extra flex Dacron B50 provides else the end of limb recovery (i.e. shooting a shaft) is too abrupt and often causes the limb tips to snap off. Best to consult the manufacturer to double check. If you can't find any info on your bow, be safe and go with a Dacron B50 string.

                    Some folks complain that Flemish strings stretch too much. All strings will stretch a bit when new but after about 50 - 100 shafts through the bow it should settle down and not continue to stretch. I personally also recommend never taking your string off your bow. Instead, when you unstring the bow simply slide the string loop down the upper limb. If you take it completely off the bow it will tend to untwist thereby potentially changing your brace height each time to put your bow back together. You can buy or make simple string keepers to keep a little tension on the string while unstrung to prevent the bottom end from coming off the bow. On the other hand putting a rubber band around the upper limb tip just where the unstrung loop would be also works.

                    Just some ideas I use with my bows. And, yes, I make my own strings both Dacron B50 and FastFlight, Flemish and endless loop, along with string keepers, bow stringers (longbow, recurve and horse bows), arm guards and quivers.

                    cog

                    --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Diana G" <the1huntress@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one. Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made. Is anyone in SCA making them?
                    > Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
                    > AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)
                    >
                    > PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.
                    >
                  • Bill Tait
                    Christophe, Have you tried any of the better fibers out there besides Fast flight? By today s standards, FF is quite elastic. I m having great success with
                    Message 9 of 13 , Dec 27, 2012
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                      Christophe,

                      Have you tried any of the "better" fibers out there besides Fast flight? By today's standards, FF is quite elastic. I'm having great success with 8190 and Halo serving.

                      William

                      On Dec 27, 2012 9:17 AM, "The Greys" <cogworks@...> wrote:
                       

                      A bow string is a bow string, right? Not really. While there are endless loop and Flemish, there it becomes a personal choice. HOWEVER, the biggie is FastFlight versus Dacron B50 strings. If by "nice recurve" you mean a newer bow, as in when manufactured, FastFlight strings may work. If an older bow a FastFlight string could possible break your bow. FastFlight material is thinner for the same poundage but also less elastic. Older bows, not designed for FastFlight material, require the extra flex Dacron B50 provides else the end of limb recovery (i.e. shooting a shaft) is too abrupt and often causes the limb tips to snap off. Best to consult the manufacturer to double check. If you can't find any info on your bow, be safe and go with a Dacron B50 string.

                      Some folks complain that Flemish strings stretch too much. All strings will stretch a bit when new but after about 50 - 100 shafts through the bow it should settle down and not continue to stretch. I personally also recommend never taking your string off your bow. Instead, when you unstring the bow simply slide the string loop down the upper limb. If you take it completely off the bow it will tend to untwist thereby potentially changing your brace height each time to put your bow back together. You can buy or make simple string keepers to keep a little tension on the string while unstrung to prevent the bottom end from coming off the bow. On the other hand putting a rubber band around the upper limb tip just where the unstrung loop would be also works.

                      Just some ideas I use with my bows. And, yes, I make my own strings both Dacron B50 and FastFlight, Flemish and endless loop, along with string keepers, bow stringers (longbow, recurve and horse bows), arm guards and quivers.

                      cog

                      --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Diana G" <the1huntress@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > I have a nice recurve but the string is coming unwrapped and I need a new one. Can anyone advise me as to where in Central or Western Oregon I can have one made. Is anyone in SCA making them?
                      > Lady Diana of Oakenbrook
                      > AKA Diana Clark, Diana Gepner (currently)
                      >
                      > PS I often travel to the Olympia Wa area and would consider obtaining one there.
                      >

                    • The Greys
                      Of my 14 bows (yes, I m a bit obsessive!) I use FastFlight strings on only one and that s because it was designed for FastFlight. A couple of my recurves
                      Message 10 of 13 , Dec 28, 2012
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                        Of my 14 bows (yes, I'm a bit obsessive!) I use FastFlight strings on only one and that's because it was "designed" for FastFlight. A couple of my recurves could use FastFlight strings but I use Dacron 'cuz I have more of it which gives me more color choices. :-) I'm aware of the "other" FastFlight type string materials but have never used them. The one bow I use FastFlight on I accidently dry fired once when, during the draw, I also pulled the string out of the arrow nock without knowing. Fortunately I did not break the bow but it actually snapped off a small sliver of wood from the limb tip. It still shoots just fine fortunately!

                        cog

                        --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Bill Tait <arwemakere@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Christophe,
                        >
                        > Have you tried any of the "better" fibers out there besides Fast flight? By
                        > today's standards, FF is quite elastic. I'm having great success with 8190
                        > and Halo serving.
                        >
                        > William
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