Re: Horse bow question
- Horse bows are nice. I own a Kassai Greyhound. Its very smooth to shoot and it looks wicked. It has provided me years of carefree shooting. Its not the fastest bow for the poundage though. Fiberglass is a heavy material, and the rigid ears are not light either. I have an oak and hickory board bow that shoots faster than my horse bow at the same poundage, with the same arrows. Its not all about the poundage. Its about the cast. I was asked to evaluate another horse bow, the sort with a leather lacing holding the leather cover on. The limbs were heavy, and covered by heavy suede and the laces. It shot very slowly. It was a dog of a bow. When shopping, keep in mind that just because it has the mechanical leverage properties of a horse bow, does not mean it will shoot any better than other designs. Its always better to test fire before you buy.
Personally, I wouldn't use my horse bow for a 'period' competition, because its primarily fiberglass, and the construction and layers are nothing like a traditional horse bow. I would feel comfortable using my wood backed wood bow. Its construction is not strictly period, but it uses wood layers to mimic the quality of a better selfbow stave.
Jumping to the subject of poundage: Some people shoot better with a higher poundage. I'd be annoyed if I were limited to 30 pounds on the target range. My arrows fly flatter with a 40 pound bow, and if I got more time at the practice range I'd shoot a 50 pound bow. Targeting is a lot easier when your arrows fly in a flatter arc. Instead of increasing poundage, I made a set of lighter arrows that fly faster, and therefore flatter, and improved my field round averages by 30 points.
Edward le Kervere
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Ld.blackmoon" <ld.blackmoon@...> wrote:
> for the ansteorran royal round , at least, ( other kingdoms unknown ) fiberglass is all it takes to remove something from the " period " list.
> ansteorra has very strict definitions of what does and does not qualify as " period equipment ".
> although you could still shoot the horse bow in the "open " division .
> the ikac is more forgiving in that it allows modern replacement materials, ie, fiberglass in place of horn.
> that help ? ; )
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
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> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:10 AM
> Subject: [SCA-Archery] Horse bow question
> It was mentioned in a post to this list that horse bows do not qualify for the primitive class in some kingdom. I would be interested in why that is so and which kingdom.
> As for horse bows, I have a Flagella Dei. I first saw the vendor at Pennsic and was interested at the time in horse bows. I told him what I liked and didn't like in a bow and he gave me two bows right off his rack and told me to go shoot them. The archery range this year was still at the top of Mount Eislin about a mile away. The vendor did NOT ask for a credit card nor any deposit so off I walked with about $1000 worth of bows! I figured this was a vendor I could work with. If he trusted me, I would trust his product. Since then Elk Ridge used to sell his bows but had some issues with them. Flagellas Dei and Elk Ridge stood behind the product and made it right but Elk Ridge decided, due to too many failures, it wasn't worth carrying the product. I've had no issues with mine and I've had it for some 6 years now.
> As for horse bows shooting nicely, yes they do and they are ambidextrous as well as not having an up or down. That is, if you have not put a nocking point on your string. There are interesting articles on the web about why a horse bow shoots like a bow of about 10 pound more draw weight than the bow being shot should act. What I find interesting is that the beloved ELB took about a month to make and a true horse bow took up to seven years to make in period.
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- Gentlemen & Ladies,
>One of my crossbow customers just contacted me with a question I
can't properly answer. He is building a crossbow and wants to know
the minimum weight bolt he should use. He didn't specify a draw
weight. No doubt this will vary depending on the prod composition,
mass, and draw weight. I was wondering if there is such a formula,
and if so where I might find it.
>Jim Koch "Gladius The Alchemist"