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Re: [SCA-Archery] Moving targets

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  • Cleve Johnson
    Any pictures of thes moving targets? Eadric   Cleve Johnson Archers make people quiver ________________________________ From: The Greys
    Message 1 of 14 , Apr 17 2:37 PM
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      Any pictures of thes moving targets?
       
      Eadric
       
      Cleve Johnson
       
      "Archers make people quiver"



      From: The Greys <cogworks@...>
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 5:24:21 PM
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Moving targets

       

      Here's a few ideas we have used for moving targets.

      Double pendulum. You could use Randal's suggestion on building it but build two on the same axle. Start the pendulums on opposite sides from each other. When you release them they swing opposite each other crossing in the middle. The real beauty here is they will not swing at the same rate. Thus you have equally crossing, fading to swinging in unison, back to crossing. Lots of fun.

      We had a windmill that the archers loved. Envision four arms sticking out from the center they rotate around, like an X rotating about its center. On the end of each arm was a 12 inch square target face. This was human powered by pulling a rope that was wound around the axle.

      Here's a simple one. Build L's out of 2 X 4 material using angle brackets. These Ls are then mounted to a 2 X 4 running parallel with the shooting line using hinges. Put a target face on each end of the L such that when first viewed one target is up and the other is laid out towards the archer face down. When the first target is hit, it falls back bringing the second target up for shooting. You can make the first target large and the second one smaller.

      Folks love this one. Build a cradle that will hold two targets next to each other with about 2 feet between them. Suspend this cradle with ropes tied to two uprights at the ends of the cradle so that the cradle can swing freely back and forth. In front of the cradle swing you place a "castle wall" with crenelations that does not move. Tie a rope to one end of the cradle that goes through pulleys and leads back to the shooting line. A marshal pulls the rope which rocks the cradle back and forth making the targets swing back and forth appearing and disappearing in the crenelations. This works as a timed shoot and is great fun if you can get the sound track of the French on the castle wall from Monty Python!

      We called it coon up a pole. Build a vertical pole out of 2 X 4's about 16 feet tall. To this you attach your target which is on a rope leading to a pulley at the top of the pole then back to the ground and back to the shooting line. The marshal pulls the rope which moves the target up the pole to the top. Of course the marshal can make it more "interesting" by raising the target at an inconsistent rate.

      Probably the simplest moving target is to mount your target on something you can drag, wheels or not depending on the ground you are working with. There is a rope attached to this sled. The target starts about 50 - 70 yards out and is pulled towards the archers. At about 10 - 15 yards shooting stops. This shot is actually more difficult than it sounds particularly if you are an archer near the end of the shooting line. Not only is the target's range changing but so is it's angle to you!

      I'm obligated to say this - Of course if you had attended all the SAADs since SAAD1 you would have had an opportunity to shoot at all of these targets and more. SAAD5 starts April 29 through May 1, Elkin, North Carolina. Still time to plan.

      cog
      MIC for SAAD5 (that was obvious, wasn't it?)

    • Carolus
      At one of our wars someone tried something similar. A target in front of which was a moving obstacle not to be hit and a castle wall in front of this.
      Message 2 of 14 , Apr 17 2:39 PM
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        At one of our wars someone tried something similar. A target in front
        of which was a moving obstacle not to be hit and a castle wall in front
        of this. Problem was the obstacle was closer to the target than the
        length of an arrow stuck in the target and also closer to the castle
        wall than an arrow which hit and stuck in the obstacle. Needless to
        say, a few busted arrows before the system got rebuilt. Always allow
        plenty of arrow clearance between layers of multi-layer targets like
        this. Great fun when they work.
        Carolus

        The Greys wrote:
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        > Folks love this one. Build a cradle that will hold two targets next to each other with about 2 feet between them. Suspend this cradle with ropes tied to two uprights at the ends of the cradle so that the cradle can swing freely back and forth. In front of the cradle swing you place a "castle wall" with crenelations that does not move. Tie a rope to one end of the cradle that goes through pulleys and leads back to the shooting line. A marshal pulls the rope which rocks the cradle back and forth making the targets swing back and forth appearing and disappearing in the crenelations. This works as a timed shoot and is great fun if you can get the sound track of the French on the castle wall from Monty Python!
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        > cog
        > MIC for SAAD5 (that was obvious, wasn't it?)
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      • James Koch
        Gentlemen & Ladies, ... My favorite moving target was one at an event here in Eastwatch in the 90s. It was a life size Saint Bernard plush toy dog mounted on
        Message 3 of 14 , Apr 17 3:21 PM
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          Gentlemen & Ladies,
          >
          My favorite moving target was one at an event here in Eastwatch in
          the 90s. It was a life size Saint Bernard plush toy dog mounted on a
          sled. The sled and dog target were moved out about 50 yards with a
          50+ yard long rope extending behind the shooting line. The shoot
          began when a guy holding the end of the rope ran so that the sled
          began moving toward the shooting line as if the dog was
          charging. The shooters had to hit the dog before it reached the
          line. The sled would run over arrows without breaking them and the
          dog was back far enough that arrows that did not penetrate would not
          hang down in front where they could have been broken.
          >
          Jim Koch "Gladius The Alchemist"
        • John Chapin
          I ve done a foam deer target mounted on a wheeled sled as a fundraiser shoot. The yardage was unknown to the shooters( it was 40 yards). the rope went to a
          Message 4 of 14 , Apr 17 3:59 PM
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            I've done a foam deer target mounted on a wheeled sled as a fundraiser shoot.  The yardage was unknown to the shooters( it was 40 yards). the rope went to a pulley that was fixed to a tree so the person pulling the sled was behind the shooting line and completely safe.  It was a big hit with everyone.

            Thorin Grjotgardhsson


            On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:21 PM, James Koch <alchem@...> wrote:
             

            Gentlemen & Ladies,
            >
            My favorite moving target was one at an event here in Eastwatch in
            the 90s. It was a life size Saint Bernard plush toy dog mounted on a
            sled. The sled and dog target were moved out about 50 yards with a
            50+ yard long rope extending behind the shooting line. The shoot
            began when a guy holding the end of the rope ran so that the sled
            began moving toward the shooting line as if the dog was
            charging. The shooters had to hit the dog before it reached the
            line. The sled would run over arrows without breaking them and the
            dog was back far enough that arrows that did not penetrate would not
            hang down in front where they could have been broken.
            >
            Jim Koch "Gladius The Alchemist"



          • Edward deWitt
            Oh Ye Archers,  And to add to THL Christophe s wonderful shoot at SAAD5, there will be a TEAM Challenge set forth by me the Baronial Archery Marshal of Sacred
            Message 5 of 14 , Apr 17 7:11 PM
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              Oh Ye Archers,
               And to add to THL Christophe's wonderful shoot at SAAD5, there will be a TEAM Challenge set forth by me the Baronial Archery Marshal of Sacred Stone.  Round up 4 teammates to shoot together.  A few of your scores from Christophe's targets will be used, along with a few separate targets, just for team scoring, will make up the challenge.  Mixed bows welcome, but only one crossbow and one crossbowman allowed per team.  Cog even agreed that one  of them is EVIL!               YA'LL COME!
              Serving,
              Ld.Eduard deWitte
              Order of the Yeoman of the Sacred Stone
              Member House Askoldsson


              I'm obligated to say this - Of course if you had attended all the SAADs since SAAD1 you would have had an opportunity to shoot at all of these targets and more. SAAD5 starts April 29 through May 1, Elkin, North Carolina. Still time to plan.

              cog
              MIC for SAAD5 (that was obvious, wasn't it?)

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