Re: [SCA-Archery] Period archery competitions
- OblioFor some reason you seem to be reading much more into my simple suggestion to encourage the use of more period style targets and competitions. I have not made any suggestion to change the requirements for: Bows. Arrow nocks. Carbon fibre bows or arrows. Naming practices. Horsebows. The use of fiberglass in gear. Archery butts or backstops. Or any of the other things you have brought up.If you are against the idea of encouraging the use of more period style targets. That is fine. But, please do try to make it seem that I have proposed any of these other ideas that you have suggested.JonOn Jan 2, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Oblio of Abertwidr wrote:
On 03/01/2011, John edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
>> How many "period" archers in the SCA, shoot with bows that are warbow
>> styled bows (compass bows), and, how many shoot with Victorian styled
>> bows (which are not from the period covered by the SCA?
> That is an interesting question. However, any style of bow, except
> compounds, are allowed by SCA rules.
> And I am not looking for a change in the style of bows allowed, just wanting
> to see more period style targets and scoring used.
What, then, is the point in pushing for more of what you perceive as
"period style targets and scoring", if you are not going to do the
same for the equipment?
Why not simply allow carbon fibre bows and arrows, with all of the
gadgetry, including spirit levels and range finders, to shoot at
"period style targets", in the "period division"?
And, apart from the inconsistency of using non-"period" equipment, to
shoot at "period style" targets, with "period style" scoring, what is
defined as "period"?
Some (much) documentation published about the SCA, states that it
relates to being "pre 1600". Some (much) documentation states that the
SCA only covers the period 600AD to 1600. Some documentation states
that the SCA covers only the "Middle Ages". Some documentation states
that the "Middle Ages" is only the period 1350AD to 1450AD. Many
opinions differ on what period was the "Middle Ages". Some
documentation restricts the geographic coverage of the SCA, to
Are we then, looking at a proposed purge of all things that do not fit
into a particular person's perception of what should be covered by the
SCA, or, a particular group's perception of what should be covered by
Are all people with "Middle Eastern" names, to be "filtered out"?
Should all archery equipment that does not conform to a particular
person's, or, group's, perception of what should be covered by the
SCA, such as horsebows (not a feature of "Western Europe in the period
600AD to 1600AD"), Victorian Longbows (out of "period" - the Victorian
era is not within the period "600AD to 1600AD"), and Holmegaard Bows
(Otzi the Iceman was about 9000 years ago, a bit before the period
"600AD to 1600AD"), be filtered out of what is acceptable as "period"
equipment, because these bow types might not fit into the perception
of a person, or, of a group, of what is covered by the SCA?
The issue of the target faces, and what should be used withion the
SCA, as target faces, and, as "period style" target faces, brings into
question, a great many, more significant, issues, as to what might or
might not be regarded as appropriate for archery in the SCA.
Such issues as whether it is better to require the use of self-nocked
arrows, which can make the archery more dangerous, arther than
allowing plastic nocked arrows, which are far safer, in the period
division, and whether fibreglass in bows should be acceptable in the
period division, are surely, more important, than the appearance of
the target face, are they not?
And, are we to expect that complicity of target butts, with whatever
was used hundreds of years ago (no synthetic materials, only bales of
hay, or, naturally grown reeds, tied in circles, mounted on wooden
frames that are not fastened with synthetic materials), is to be
expected or required in archery within the SCA?
Surely, the purpose of the SCA, should be inclusivity, rather than
exclusivity, with the emphasis on safety, should it not?
Oblio of Abertwidr
Per fructu, non folii
My life is a Comedy of Arrows
Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
"Red son of Alfred"
11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
Paid SCA member since 2003
--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Carolus <eulenhorst@...> wrote:
From: Carolus <eulenhorst@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Period archery competitions
Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 4:54 AM
Dearg Ailfredsson wrote:
> The only thing I have to say is;
> Good form isn't what your shooting at,
> but how your shooting at it.
> Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
> [dare-eg ale-frid-son]
> "Red son of Alfred"
> 11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
> a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
> Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
> Paid SCA member since 2003