Re: [SCA-Archery] Period archery competitions
Oblio , I believe you have taken this as an affront or father then suggested. What Jon asked was to remove ONE glaring off period item from some shoots. in the fighting field you used to be able to fight in carpet Armour. over the 40 plus year the standerd have change and a "more " period Armour is expected. In the 40 plus year the archery has not changed as much. It has changed, we do have more period garbed archers and more are using period bows. but if you took a picture of the line today and compared it to that 40 years ago I bet it would look a lot alike.
On 1/2/2011 9:57 PM, Oblio of Abertwidr wrote:
On 03/01/2011, John edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
> The colored five ring target and scoring as is used in modern archery dates
> back only to the Prince of Wales in 1787, he established the "prince’s
> reckoning" (values for rings of 9, 7, 5, 3, 1 point) and colors. There is
> some evidence of multi ring targets being used in very late period.
By 1 339, archers had come to be half of the whole mass of footmen,
and later the proportion was greatly increased. In 1360 Edward III.
mounted his archers, as Strongbow had done. The long-bow was about 5
ft., and its shaft a cloth-yard long. Shot by a Welsh archer, a shaft
had penetrated an oak door (at Abergavenny in 1182) 4 in. thick and
the head stood out a hand's breadth on the inner side. Drawn to the
right ear, the bow was naturally capable of long shooting, and in
Henry VIII.'s time practice at a less range than one furlong was
- http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Archery as viewed at the time of
writing this posting.
So, no doubt, we shot be shooting distances less than a furlong, for
the sake of "authenticity"?
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furlong , we have
A furlong is a measure of distance in imperial units and U.S.
customary units. It is equal to one-eighth of an international mile,
to 220 yards, and to 660 feet. Since furlongs are not used for
precision measurements, there is no need to consider other slightly
So, practice (not competition, but, practice), was banned for
distances less than 10 chains, or, 11 score yards.
So, should we not all be shooting either 11 score yards (or, more
appropriately, for adults, 12 score yards, as previously mentioned)?,
for the sake of "authenticity"?
And, should the bows that are shot in the "period division", be
restricted to exclude Victorian Longbow styled bows (bows with
stiffened handles), as they are out of period, and, be restricted to
compass bows (bows that bend all the way from tip to tip, bending
evenly through the handle),. and, excluding fibreglass, and, excluding
butts that are not as they would have been over four hundred years
Easier to just shoot roving marks, with no international competition
(and, international competitions, such as the Royal Round and IKAC
competitions, are not "authentic", as they did not have means of
communication of scores via the Internet; if a person shot in a
tournament, the person had to physically attend the particular shoot,
and not arrive all fresh from travelling in a horseless carriage, but,
rather, had to ravel on horseback, or, in a wooden carriage (without
hydraulic suspension and refrigerated airconditioning), or, on foot,
travelling however many miles or leagues, to attend the shoot, and
perhaps getting shot or kidnapped by brigands, on the way to the
So, exactly what degree of "authenticity", do you seek in your quest
for absolute authenticity?
Oblio of Abertwidr
Per fructu, non folii
My life is a Comedy of Arrows
Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
"Red son of Alfred"
11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
Paid SCA member since 2003
--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Carolus <eulenhorst@...> wrote:
From: Carolus <eulenhorst@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Period archery competitions
Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 4:54 AM
Dearg Ailfredsson wrote:
> The only thing I have to say is;
> Good form isn't what your shooting at,
> but how your shooting at it.
> Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
> [dare-eg ale-frid-son]
> "Red son of Alfred"
> 11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
> a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
> Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
> Paid SCA member since 2003