Re: [SCA-Archery] Period archery competitions
- On 03/01/2011, John edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:
> The IKAC is a privately sponsored competition. The SCA as such, does notThe IKAC is shot withion nthe SCA, and it has Rules that are compliant
> have a period division or rules for a period division. Nothing has been
> said in this thread about requiring all archers to shoot in a period
> division using period gear. However, the IKAC could change its rules to
> require the use of the period face while still allowing the use of modern
> equipment in the Open division. There is nothing in the SCA Target Archery
> Rules that would not allow a competition to set rules that would require the
> use of period only gear and and period targets and scoring for all archers
> shooting in that competition.
with SCA Rules, and thus the IKAC Rules are SCA Rules, and thus, the
period division is recognised as such, within the SCA.
From what I understand, the IKAC Rules are set by a single person
within the SCA; the "Keeper Of The IKAC".
> What I would like to see encouraged is the use of more period style targetsThe requirement to shoot 12 score yards, was a statute that was in
> and scoring at our events. I do not think that replacing all modern
> targets and scoring with those of period is needed or a good idea at this
> There was no single "statutory distance" for target archery in pre 1600
> Europe. One should not confuse archery laws in England during a specific
> time as pertaining to all of Europe. And if we were to require 12 score
> yards as a minimum, then there would be few events or practices that had
> enough space to safely shoot and too few archers that would try to shoot
> that distance. However, when such distance is available and safe, it would
> be a good idea to sometimes make use of it.
force for quite a while in England, and, from what I understand,
England was a part of Europe.
It is, I believe, the only statute of which modern people are aware,
that specified distances to be shot, and therefore, qualifies as a
"single "statutory distance" for target archery in pre 1600 Europe" -
however, as it allowed people under a certain age, to shoot 11 score
yards, rather than 12 score yards, to make it easy for them, I suppose
that it was not a "single "statutory distance", as a shorther distance
was allowed for younger people.
Regarding the prospect of shooting the distance of 12 score yards, no
archer in the world, is recognised as shooting that distance, as a
shoot other than a flight shoot, as modern archers are simply not
capable of the degree of skill that applied when King Henry VIII shot
in the Field Of Gold.
The skill is gone. Not even compound bow machine operators are capable
of shooting that distance, in a test of skill of accuracy.
And, modern longbow archers do not have the strength or skill, to
shoot such a distance, for accuracy.
It could be worth you checking, but I know that the maximum distance
shot for clout, in international competition, is 185m, for men
compound bow machine operators, and 185m is only about 10 score yards.
Oblio of Abertwidr
Per fructu, non folii
My life is a Comedy of Arrows
Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
"Red son of Alfred"
11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
Paid SCA member since 2003
--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Carolus <eulenhorst@...> wrote:
From: Carolus <eulenhorst@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Period archery competitions
Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 4:54 AM
Dearg Ailfredsson wrote:
> The only thing I have to say is;
> Good form isn't what your shooting at,
> but how your shooting at it.
> Lord Dearg Ailfredsson
> [dare-eg ale-frid-son]
> "Red son of Alfred"
> 11th century Gall Gaidhel [gall guy-yell
> a.k.a. "Irish Northman"
> Leather Craftsman, Archer and Huntsman
> Paid SCA member since 2003