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Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: additional Peerage Proposal ....final comments

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  • George Ledbury
    ... what you are saying is that if you are not a heavy fighter you have no chivalry and if you are a Knight you do you don t know the same knights I do if you
    Message 1 of 21 , Aug 9, 2009
      Dan Scheid wrote:
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      > I need to make some correction before this gets out of hand .. post
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      > From: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
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      > <mailto:SCA-Archery%40yahoogroups.com>] On
      > Behalf Of Beth Kilburn
      > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:29 AM
      > To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SCA-Archery%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: [SCA-Archery] Re: additional Peerage Proposal ....final comments
      >
      > Hi, all! Just wanted to put in my 2 cents. Below is most of the feedback I
      > myself sent to the SCA comments email address...
      > Eibhlin
      >
      > I am for either a fourth Peerage (preferrable) or officially making a
      > Peerage recognition "the other half" of OL (if that makes it easier to
      > swallow) even though that may not make much sense, having A&S as one
      > half &
      > weapons/equestrian as the other half. I am still relatively new to the
      > SCA.
      > I have no rank, nor am I in a Peerage group. The Chivalry is for Knights
      > (oath of fealty) & Mastery of Arms (no oath of fealty), the Laurels have
      > theirs for excellence in A&S, and the Pelicans have theirs for
      > excellence in
      > service. What about those of us who do not do heavy combat or have yet to
      > excel in A&S or may never hold a kingdom/society level office?
      >
      > There is a Peerage for those who do great service to their kingdom with
      > heavy weapons but not a Peerage for those who do great service with
      > non-rattan weapons?
      >
      > / no service is service you can get a pelican for anything in this
      > group it
      > just a measure of work for the group
      >
      > There is a Peerage to include those who do beautiful & delicate embroidery
      > but not for those who know how to handle a beautiful horse on a field?
      >
      > Wrong again riding well can get you invited into the order of the Laurel.
      > (I know that's how I got invited)
      >
      > It definitely seems to me that since there is Peerage recognition for some
      > who excel but not for all who excel, that a slight re-organization can be
      > done in order that all who are dedicated (to learning about x,
      > participating
      > in x, & teaching others what they've learned about x so that they too may
      > excel in x) might have equal opportunity to attain Peerage status.
      >
      > What is at odds here is NON RATTAN COMBAT. This is a whole in our group
      > that does not fit in service, A&S or Rattan combat (chivalry)
      >
      > Damales Redbeard O.L.
      >
      > --- In SCA-Archery@ <mailto:SCA-Archery%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com,
      > "tibbiecroser" <kmackavanagh@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > I personally don't favor the proposal, but I commend Sir Jon and his
      > collaborators for working very hard, through the proper channels, to
      > try to
      > effect changes they want. There are many, many people on SCA lists who
      > repeatedly gripe about how this or that should be banned, but they never
      > *do* anything to get the rules changed.
      > >
      > > Tibbie Croser, Barony of Storvik, Kingdom of Atlantia, fencer and
      > possible
      > future target archer
      > >
      > > --- In SCA-Archery@ <mailto:SCA-Archery%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com, "i_griffen" <i_griffen@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > During the past 10 years You have been putting this in front of the
      > Board of Directors. They have been rejecting it You rewrite is again and
      > then resubmit is again it is rejected. When are you going to stop forcing
      > this issue. You are a triple Peer. I get the feeling you are doing
      > this only
      > so you can have another Peerage.
      > > >
      > > > It may be a good idea to let the dead horse stay dead
      > > >
      > > > Iain Griffen
      > > >
      > >
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      what you are saying is that if you are not a heavy fighter you have no
      chivalry and if you are a Knight you do you don't know the same knights
      I do if you think that is atomatic
    • Dan Scheid
      By caporal Chivalry Is the name of the order no more no less Damales ... _,___ ... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      Message 2 of 21 , Aug 9, 2009
        By caporal Chivalry Is the name of the order no more no less

        Damales
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        >what you are saying is that if you are not a heavy fighter you have no
        >chivalry and if you are a Knight you do you don't know the same knights
        >I do if you think that is atomatic



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