Re: The Language of Archery
- I'm just repeating what I'd read in one of my archery history books,
probably by Soar or Hardy. I don't know any archaic Norman, or know of
any period text that would support either word used in an
archery/military context much less used in combination as an understood
command or exclamation.
- I find Soar sometimes make comments that add great colour but don't
seem to be backed up with any evidence. Hardy often has a source.
Even finding the earliest explanation for nestroque to be a
misrepresentation of menee stroke might give us a clue as to whether it
is a valid explanation.
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Cian of Storvik" <firespiter@...>
> I'm just repeating what I'd read in one of my archery history books,
> probably by Soar or Hardy. I don't know any archaic Norman, or know
> any period text that would support either word used in anunderstood
> archery/military context much less used in combination as an
> command or exclamation.
- Enguerrand de Monstrelet is a period source for the Battle of Agincourt
This is the text of his chronicles in electronic format
A borrowed bit of text from a discussion on NetSword is below:
The author of this account of Agincourt is "Enguerrand de Monstrelet
(d.1453), governor of Cambrai and supporter of the French crown."
*(snip)*... He includes a number of interesting details, like the name
of the commander of the [i]English[/i] archers and the fact that many of
them had their "hose loose"; which has been attributed to the dysentery
raging among the English. His passage about Erpingham ordering the
English archers to open the battle is of sufficient interest that it is
specifically discussed in Anne Curry's book [b]Agincourt 1415[/i]. The
author concludes that "Nestroque" was the french rendition of a man with
a Norfolk accent shouting "Now Strike!".
Hugh Soar makes his own comments in Vol. 44 of Society for Archer
Antiquaries in 2001, but that doesn't appear to be available unless you
are a member
A recent work- 'Cavalry from Hoof to Track' By Roman Johann Jarymowycz,
Roman Jarymowycz, Donn A. Starry
Also says Sir Thomas Erpingham says "Now Strike" on page 51, and while
footnoted, I cant get to the bibliographic page for the reference.
Dirk Edward of Frisia