Re: FINAL IKAC RESULTS + IMPORTANT RULE CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR
I don't think it is a Yahoo problem, since I use yahoo and can see
and use the addresses just fine as displayed. In any case...
The URL is:
http(colon backslash backslash)www(dot)detommaso(dot)org(backslash)
His personal email address is:
I hope that helps,
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Egil Haraldsson"
> I guess I should have asked this in the first missive.
> What is the IKAC website URL??
> What is his email addy: (please post it without the dots and the @
> that becuase Yahoo hides those.
> --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Andre Detoso <detomamd@> wrote:
> > Greetings from Lorenzo, Keeper of the IKAC.
> > The FINAL standings for Season XXXI of the IKAC/IKCAC are as
> written below. <SNIP>
There are at least two, maybe 3 reports from the Outlands missing.
I've contacted our Scorekeeper Constanza about them and she will be
getting them to you before the 15th.
At least two of the reports will make a difference in the rankings. A
couple of our crossbow archers got hot late in our outside range season!
Deputy Archer General of the Outlands (Northern region)
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Andre Detommaso <detomamd@...> wrote:
> Greetings from Lorenzo, Keeper of the IKAC.
> The FINAL standings for Season XXXI of the IKAC/IKCAC are as written
> VERY IMPORTANT: Please read the notes at the end of the scores, they
detail information about this just-concluded season, and SUBSTANTIAL
changes for the upcoming Season XXXII, which starts today. I know the
notes are a little long, but it is very important that you read them
through the end.
> The FINAL standings for Season XXXI of the IKAC/IKCAC competition
are as follows (pending final certifiation on 15 February - please
read first note below):
> Open division
> 1. AETHELMEARC: 292; Laochlain Sylverwulf: 359; Christopher
Silverwolf: 272; Gwyilym or Afonydd Tair: 245;
> 2. AN TIR: 270.6; Andras the Truemark: 289; Gareth Stringbreaker:
269; Alis inghean Ruaidhri: 254;
> 3. CALONTIR: 247.3; Otto Graubart: 251; Daniel Arrownock: 251; Leif
of Crescent Moon: 240;
> 4. EAST: 230.3; Rupert the Unbalanced: 262; Nest verch Tangwistel:
253; Robert Howry of Morninghorpe: 176;
> 5. ANSTEORRA: 224.3; Sam of Northkeep: 240; Cian Rhys Gravenor: 218;
Robin of Northkeep: 215;
> 6. WEST: 215.6; Wolfric Hammerfestning: 263; Sveinn Uilfsson: 208;
Mark vondem Falkenstemm: 176;
> 7. MERIDIES: 212; Ronan MacMorton: 303; Sean McGarrow: 180;
Guillamue Sinclair: 153;
> 8. LOCHAC: 211; Darius J'Fa: 215; Khorvash Zareed: 214; Llwyd ap
> 9. TRIMARIS: 210; Erika Bjornsdottir: 252; Aesa: 190; Guenwhyvar: 188;
> 10. ATLANTIA: 205.6; Timothy of Shaftesbury: 225; Barry of Roxbury
Mills: 214; Albrecht von Reith: 178;
> 11. EALDORMERE: 205; Dafydd ap Sion: 234; Augustyn von Brixen: 194;
Edhan Debrus: 187;
> 12. ARTEMISIA: 195; Arthen ap Rhun: 212; Ryryd ap Gwerstan: 205;
Francisco Digrazzi: 168;
> 13. NORTHSHIELD: 181.6; Robin Arthur Kyrke: 228; Dirk von der Kruis:
164; Siegound Eisenhaut: 153;
> 14. MIDREALM: 167.3; James Cunningham: 219; Erik Erikson the Scout:
205; Seonaid inghean Domnial: 78;
> 15. ATENVELDT: 155.6; Johan of Hawksley: 194; Alaxandar mac
Donnaidh: 144; Solomon Kogan: 129;
> 16. OUTLANDS: 141.3; Oengus of Greymist: 181; Costanza Marina de
Huelva: 122; Lochlain: 121;
> 17. DRACHENWALD: 71.6; Tapio Toivanpoika: 78; Torkkei: 74; Kertu
> 18. GLEANN ABHANN: no average; Kolr Bogsveigir: 215; Kenneth
> 19. CAID: no average; Gemma Evangelista Borgia: 200; Brighid ni
> Period division
> 1. AN TIR: 180; Alaricus Simmonds: 266; Kenneth of Shaftesbury: 138;
Daffydd De Donke: 136;
> 2. OUTLANDS: 153.3; Rand the Tracker: 178; Stephan Sorenson: 146;
Druid Aukring: 136;
> 3. LOCHAC: 144.6; Ysabella Vitale: 164; Sebastian Greenbow: 142;
Sabine d'Antan: 128;
> 4. CALONTIR: 136; Michael vanBergen: 140; Odd Bjornson: 138; Michael
de Lundie: 130;
> 5. ANSTEORRA: 127.3; Lawrence of Namron: 136; Leofwine on
Sumersaeton: 126; Ekaterina Iadorovna Kharlampieva: 120;
> 6. WEST: no average; Angus MacDonald: 234; Joseph de la Tour: 123;
> 7. EAST: no average; Iulianiia Trieskova: 146; Lienhart Fischer von
> 8. ATENVELDT: no average; Johan of Hawksley: 122; Phillip the
> 9. MIDREALM: no average; James Cunningham: 138;
> 10. DRACHENWALD: no average; Rakonczay Gergely: 118;
> 11. GLEANN ABHANN: no average; Uilleam MacUileam: 94;
> 12. ATLANTIA: no average; Tomas Tryggvarson: 24;
> Open Crossbow division
> 1. MIDREALM: 260.3; James Cunningham: 307; Erik Erikson the Scout:
240; Elspeth MacGregor: 234;
> 2. CALONTIR: 225.3; Rolf Hobart: 253; Michael vanBergen: 219; Robert
> 3. ANSTEORRA: 203.3; Karl Thorgeirsson: 217; Padriac of Kilkenny:
216; Ulrich Von Budigen: 177;
> 4. AETHELMEARC: 176.3; Brandubh O'Donnghaile: 261; Pearce Redsmythe:
194; Solveig Throndardottir: 74;
> 5. ATLANTIA: no average; Gregge the Archer: 348; Jonathas Reinisch:
> 6. AN TIR: no average; David of Tiriane: 301; Kenneth of
> 7. OUTLANDS: no average; Daffyd of Emmett: 246; Cadfarch ap Nir
> 8. EALDORMERE: no average; Gunther: 177; Aodhan: 143;
> Period Crossbow division
> 1. CALONTIR: 264; Dolan Madoc: 290; Rolf Hobart: 254; Michael
> 2. OUTLANDS: 233.3; Mika Longbow: 292; Daffyd of Emmett: 210; Connal
Mac an Druidgh: 198;
> 3. ANSTEORRA: 184.6; Padriac of Kilkenny: 254; Frederic De la
Costas: 162; Ulrich Von Budigen: 138;
> 4. MIDREALM: no average; James Cunningham: 292; Elspeth MacGregor: 168;
> 5. ATENVELDT: no average; Owen Blackshepe: 194; Steffen von der
> 6. ATLANTIA: no average; Gregge the Archer: 326;
> 7. AETHELMEARC: no average; Brandubh O'Donnghaile: 288;
> 1. AN TIR: 293.3; Deicyn Moel: 340; Coriander: 274; Lahela: 266;
> 2. CAID: 153; Garrett O'Doherty: 169; Gemma Evangelista Borgia: 147;
Drusus Von Ausburg: 143.
> 3. MIDREALM: 87.7; Erik Erikson the Scout: 119; James Cunningham:
112; Constanca Daguiar: 32.
> 4. WEST: no average; Joseph de la Tour: 157.
> Children division
> 2. ANSTEORRA: 77; Phoenix Thorne: 118; Patrick of Gate's Edge: 71;
Christiana De La Costas: 42;
> 4. LOCHAC: 28.3; Philippe of Southroun Gaard: 40; Gryffen
Bladesmith: 23; Gryffen Bladesmythe: 22;
> 1. AETHELMEARC: no average; Layla of Gryffon's Keep: 265; Colin of
Gryfyyns Keep: 199;
> 3. ATENVELDT: no average; Brandan: 137; Seraphina of Hawksley: 49;
> 5. ATLANTIA: no average; William Alricsson: 31;
> Youth division
> 1. Douglas Silverwolf(AETHELMEARC): 318;
> 2. Seraphina of Hawksley(ATENVELDT): 49;
> 3. Edric Alricsson(ATLANTIA): 30;
> KEEPER's AWARD
> 1) Baron Jonathas from Atlantia for his iniative and work in setting
up the facilities to allow scores to be entered directly on-line.
> 2) Nest from East for his continued work with IKAC and children
> 3) Sir Erika from Trimaris for her constant work on behalf of the
IKAC in Trimaris
> IMPORTANT NOTES:
> - Season XXXI (2008)
> 1) Clearly this final posting is very late. For that I apologize
profusely. The reasons are many and varied and known to some of you,
but a substantial reason is paradoxically positive, i.e. thousand+
submissions since October which have taken a long long time for me to
enter. The good news is that this issue is being actively handled as
we speak, more on this later.
> ALL the scores received for ALL archers in ALL divisions are posted
on the website ( http://www.detommaso.org/ikac ). Please review them,
and let me know of any issues and/or errors. The scores will be
certified on 15 February, so it is possible that some of the standings
may change until then. The medallions for the winners will be
available the first week of March. After 15 February, please contact
me if you are a winner, or can handle medallions for the winner
> - Season XXXII (2009)
> 1) As mentioned earlier, I expect that data entry and reporting will
be much easier going forward, freeing me to concentrate on managing
the competition and the non on-line entries. Thanks to Baron Jonathas,
who initiated the idea of using his portal for on-line submission and
contacted me about it, I hope that the majority of scores in the
coming season will be entered through the on-line form. Over the past
several weeks we have been working to develop and expand the portal
that currently allows some Kingdoms to enter scores through the online
form for all archers to all Kingdoms for the IKAC. There are still a
few issues to be worked out, but the expectation is that this will be
available to all archers very shortly, and all appropriate links will
be posted on the IKAC
> web site. The Excel spreadsheet and snail-mail submission will still
be accepted, of course. More details on this as it develops, and
again, heartfelt thanks to Baron Jonathas for his initiative and hard
work with his Multi-Kingdom scorekeeping website. That this is
possible is totally a tribute to his initiative, skill and resources.
> 2) CHANGES: Time has come to make some changes, in the interest of
the competition. They are as follows:
> - CHILDREN Division is now limited to children 10 years or younger
> - YOUTH division is for children aged 10-13
> - BOTH divisions will use the formerly CHILDREN division shorter
distances (10,15,20 yards, instead of 20,30,40).
> - Children 14 or older will compete in the regular divisions at
> - The CHILDREN and YOUTH Divisions were always meant ONLY to help
children get interested and started in archery and put in the time to
start developing their skills. As I had specifically mentioned in the
rules, children who already shoot at the level of adults should be
shooting in the main divisions. For the most part this has worked, but
there have been some exceptions. In the interest of the competition,
starting this year, I will be enforcing this last point. Scores for
the Children and Youth divisions will be limited to 200 or below.
Also, I don't want to get multiple scores that all hover around 200.
Those scores will be rejected. Marshals, please understand the goal of
these divisions, they are meant to encourage children to get started
and develop. I thank you in advance for your assistance on this.
> - VERY HIGH SCORES: Without question, throughout the years by far
the most unpleasant part of being Keeper has been dealing with the
flood of emails that very high scores have generated from others.
> Having run the competition since 2000, and having 15000+ scores in
my database, I can pretty much chart the progress of the archers of
the SCA at large, and that of any individual archer who has ever shot
an IKAC. But lately this matter has become worse, and it is my
strongly held belief that the constant doubting of scores is damaging
to the competition, because it generates the feeling that not everyone
is playing by the same rules. As proof I can offer the many letters
that I have received from archers who have written to me saying they
are no longer shooting the IKAC for this very reason. So this must be
addressed, and it will be addressed.
> Although I firmly believe in the honor system that is at the heart
of most of the SCA's competitions, clearly something has to be done to
restore and/or strengthen everyone's belief that the IKAC is an open
and level playing field. Therefore, even though going forward most
scores will be entered on-line, I will review each score before I
allow them to be posted. I reserve the right to reject any score for
any reason. I don't expect to reject anything if all goes well, but I
may contact individual archers to get more information regarding
individual scores if they are well outside the mean.
> In the end, I personally guarantee to each and every archer in the
SCA that everyone in the competition is playing by the same rules, and
my guarantee will include personal observation, wherever required. So
going forward you can safely assume that if a score is posted, it
deserves to be there.
> I welcome your input on this, feel free to contact me at ikac@... if
you have any comments or questions on this.
> Finally, thank you to everyone for your continued participation in
the IKAC/IKCAC. This year was above average, and I hope that with the
new on-line form, we will grow even more. Unfortunately, my mundane
work prevents me from keeping up with the boards, therefore please
send any questions or comments directly to ikac@..., or detomamd@...
> Shoot well,
> - Lorenzo