Re: Boobs and Bowstrings
- It might depend on the type of bodice. Many bodices do push the
breasts up and out, but some historically styled bodices are designed
to flatten the breasts and push them off to the sides.
For women who feel they need chest protection, fencing and martial
arts vendors carry both molded one-piece chest protectors and plastic
breast cups that are designed to be inserted into a sports bra.
P.S. To introduce myself, I'm Tibbie Croser, a recently authorized
(female) rapier fighter in Atlantia who's interested in taking up
target archery. I don't anticipate having boob problems myself,
because I'm only an A cup.
Tibbie Croser, Barony of Storvik, Atlantia
In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Laura" <Ladybaron@...> wrote:
> Are you sure you don't have this backwards? I have seen women in
> bodices hit themselves with the bowstring becuase they were so
> out up front. I have encountered many cases of garb interferenceat
> the lines - poufy and / or long flowy sleeves, lots of chains,beads,
> necklaces, as well as bodices pushing the ladies up & out all havesomething
> caused string interference and entanglements. This is just
> that is not considered by occasional and beginner archers whopractice
> only in their mundane clothes. Then they step up to the line oncea
> year at Pennsic and discover their garb is causing problems. Ioften
> invite people to shoot in garb at my archery practices for thatvery
> I am by no means flat chested, and have always used a square
> In almost 50 years of shooting the bow I have not managed to thwackbasics
> myself with the bowstring. I shoot ELB, modern and period recurves
> and do not encounter the problem. I can suggest getting to the
> of foot placement and hips to make sure she is using a stance thather
> would alleviate the string problem. Foot placement alone is not
> enough - she has to be sure she is not twisting her hips to place
> torso closer to the string. This is sometimes done by beginnerand
> --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Liges <ligessac@> wrote:
> > Forgive me for pointing out something so basic, but has anyone
> considered her garb? If what she is wearing is designed to lift and
> push out, it would put them more in danger. My Lady wife shoots,
> if in regular clothes, has a problem with hitting, if she wears a
> bodice, she has no problem.
> > Liges
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- Late response
I've read the term 'stance'. I'll refer to their 'form'....... same thing.
It sounds like she has what we refer to as 'Bow Creep'. This pulls the bow
stave out in front of the body and allows the bow string to come in front of
the body. Ladies are notorious for this if they are fighting an overly
strong bow weight.
For proper form: there should be a *straight* line from the bow hand through
the left shoulder to the right shoulder. And then there should be a
*straight* line from the arrow tip through the string hand to the right
elbow. No break in the string hand. This may actually move her anchor point
back on her face from the chin to the edge of the mouth or the jaw bone.
Anchor point on the face (string fingers should touch the face, chin, eye,
mouth, jaw, etc.) And then *pinch a quarter between the shoulder blades*.
Arch the back. Use the back muscles to straighten these two lines to form
the 'perfect' triangle. On drawing the string it will come straight into the
side of the archer and, upon release, go straight away from the breast. I
actually had an 'overly endowed' Lady draw the bottom half of the string
over the top half of her breast (light poundage bow)
Bow creep allows inconsistancy to enter an archers' form. With proper form
we avoid 'titty whack' and you will notice that her arrow groupings will
tighten up also. Her scores will go up.
Let us know how all this info helps.
Subject: [SCA-Archery] Boobs and Bowstrings
> I have a student who complains of hitting her left breast with the
> bowstring on release. Obviously, there's a problem with her stance, but
> we're having trouble sorting it out. I think she may be over-drawing
> and rolling her right shoulder too far back.
> Has anyone else run into this when teaching women?
> Master William, Reluctant Coach
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