Re: [SCA-Archery] self nock question
- I wrap my self nocked cedar shafts with thread and then paint them with
water based polyurethane. Only ones I've ever split were in the arrows
made when I experimented with using a thin kerf tablesaw blade to cut the nock.
Briaroak, Summits, An Tir
At 10:49 PM 4/2/2005, Geoffrei wrote:
> An insert looks real pretty and it will help to strengthen a nock
>(ash may be hard, but it still splits, it just takes a lot more to split
> I shoot self nocks very often and I haven't used the inserts (way
>too much work), but I wrap the
>area just under the cut nock with a tight whipping of synthetic sinew.
> There is a penetrating epoxy dip that is used in boatbuilding and
>boat maintenance that is available in most marine supply stores. It is
>used to strengthen wood used in frames and knees on boats and it
>essentially turns the wood into a hardened synthetic that is very
>durable. I experimented with it on a couple of dozen arrows and was
>pleased with the result. It comes in a clear, so it doesn't effect the
>look of the arrow and you only need to dip the nock (doing any more
>would undoubtedly affect the flex of the shaft). It's not that
>expensive, you mix the two parts together and it does penetrate the wood
>and hardens. I purchased a kit for under $20.00 and used very little of
>the kit to do the nocks on over two dozen arrows.
>Just another idea in the mix.
- Subject: self nock question
In making a self nocked arrow out of an ash shaft, is there any
advantage in placing a horn or hardwood insert as you would do with a
Many Thanks: Richard of Westwood
As has been said, ash is pretty tough but the inserts do add strength and are asthetically pleasing also.
A wood insert is probably easier to work with than a horn insert.
I use black walnut inserts on all my personal cedar and ash shafts, and will use them on my future poplar shafts :)
- Dear All,
I use horn inserts on my period shafts and my Standard Arrows. There is a
horn company in Scotland called Hillend Horn Company, details below, and
they supply horn inserts, 3 inch by 1 inch and approximately 2mm thick, you
can get a bag for a few pounds sterling and they go a long way, and cover
most options for inserts.
I use 24 hour epoxy because it too penetrates the wood and gives a very
The inserts do make the arrows more durable and will take more abuse, they
also look well when finished off properly.
If shooting the BLBS Standard Arrow, horn inserts are required.
Whilst it may be a lot of work, we all spend a lot of time and effort on our
kit, usually a lot more than we sometimes care to admit, but I will admit
that it is worth it.
Se�n the Archer
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Details for Hillend:
The Hillend Horn Company Ltd
85 Hillend Road,
Glasgow G76 7XT Scotland
Tel (+44) 141 639 5735
Fax (+44) 141 616 3522
Contact: Martin Hyslop
Martin is one of the leading UK suppliers of buffalo and rams horn, stag
antler, seasoned shanks and other stickmaking materials, he also has horn
for making asiatic composite bows.
- Godwin FitzGilbert de Strigoil wrote:
> ...I assume you run the grain of the insert cross-wise to the arrow. Yes?
> A wood insert is probably easier to work with than a horn insert.
> I use black walnut inserts on all my personal cedar and ash shafts, and will use them on my future poplar shafts :)
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