Re: Equipment Failures
- Yes, we are different than FITA but I think that is becoming a red
herring. I am more concerned about whether we are putting too
much emphasis on equipment safety.
You can that bow that the brand new archer just bought on
Merchants Row and go over it with 10 power loupe looking for
cracks. You can run the bow through an x-ray machine to try to
find hidden flaws in the wood. You can check the humidity of
wood. You can count the plies in the string and do a break test to
determine if the string is safe. You can take all the time needed
but none of those tests are going to tell you whether that new
archer is dumb enough to nock an arrow behind the shooting
line and try to shoot over the heads of the archers on the line.
But let's drop the hyperbole and state my concerns/issues.
1. I have not seen any reason why a system wide standard is
even needed. I have seen nothing that seems to indicate that
there has been any accidents caused by lack of standardization.
2. I am concerned that individual archers may become
dependent on marshalls providing safety. Safety begins at the
3. If you look for the devil, you will find him. There are some very
simple things to look for inspecting archery equipment. It can
probably be summed up in one or two paragrahs. Do a search
for archery safety and see what is covered during equipment
inspections. Delaminations, cracks in the riser or limbs, the bow
nocks, frayed strings, and cracks/splinters in the arrows will
pretty much cover most of it. My fear is that we will get a list of
every paranoid possibility regardless of how unlikely it is to
happen or whether it is even a valid safety concern.
4. Even though this is only supposed to be a guideline and each
Kingdom will still be able to follow its own guidelines and I
reside in a Kingdom with sane, common sense guidelines, I
fear it will become the defacto standard.
Here are some of things I would like to see as the discussion
1. That the information be directed towards the archer not the
marshall. Such information will help newbie archers buy and
maintain their equipment. And, of course, any thing directed at
the archer would also cover that more important aspect of safety
- i.e. the rules of the range.
2. We try to look at the facts without the "but what ifs". Is it really a
safety situation? I have enjoyed Gladius's critique of the
crossbow criteria. Hopefully, we can get rid of those criteria that
are not based on real safety issues.
3. Keep it simple.
Safety is important. I think it is important that all new archers are
coached in the rules of the range and on how to inspect their
own equipment. Archery has an inherent danger but it is the
awareness of that danger that helps keeps this sport one of the
safest sports. We don't have to make this complicated.
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Nest verch Tangwistel
>a year. The
> We often see archers which are brand new or only shoot once
> people with good intentions, but limited knowledge are thetargets of our
> inspections. I don't think the two systems are comparable.They are made
> to deal with very different situations.
- Your guess is right for a modern fiberglass bow but wrong for a wood
bow. The fracture follows the grain, which is seldom as straight as we
like thus causing the sharp pieces to fly sideways. I've watched both
break and far prefer the modern failure.
At 11:50 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote:
>The solution to this is to simply space archers on the line so that they--
>are as far apart as practical given the number of people and the space
>available. It is my guess though that since the force vectors in a drawn
>hand bow are forward and back and vertical, very little energy will be
>imparted to the pieces of a breaking bow to the sides of a shooter. This
>is not true of a crossbow.
>Jim Koch (Gladius The Alchemist)
> >At 08:03 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:08:32 -0500, James W. Pratt, Jr.
> ><cunning@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this mean wood bows are inherently unsafe and should be banned? I
> > > have personly seen three wood bows explode one cause an injury(to my head
> > > chirurgeon report and all).
> > >
> > > James Cunningham
> > > The Devils Advocate
> >And the answer to the devil's advocate would be:
> >Those who shoot a traditional wood bow need to take extra care in the
> >storage, transport and use of their bow, inspecting it often for
> >Lord Caedmon Wilson
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