Re: [SCA-Archery] Need Info on period shoot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Scherrer" <lordthomas@...>
> Need some help. Looking for 14th century Italian archery.
> What would a group of Italian archers do if they got together to compete?
Tell jokes about the French?
But seriously, I don't think our medieval brethren are that much different from
us. What do WE do? We dare someone to hit a certain spot on the target. We
see who can shoot the farthest, or the tighest grouping.
I'm by no means expert, and my documentation is minimal, but FWIWm
14th century Italians tended to lean heavily on crossbows rather than
handbows. When they did use handbows, they were somewhat more likely
than French or English or Scots or Scandinavians to use recurves,
though they certainly knew about norther Longbows. Note that there was
a very successful Condottiere of English extraction, Sir John Hawkwood,
active in Italy with a sizable army of Mercenaries under his command in
the 14th century. An important reason why he was as successful as he
was was the extensive use by his troops of English longbows.
There is little documentation from any culture in period about the
specifics of target practice, and we are reduced to peering at things
like the Lutrell Psalter for clues about what they did. I am confident
that Italian practice did not differ much from that found elsewhere. If
that is true, then you are looking at round white targets as big as a
dish set up on little earthen mounds and shot at from distances of 100
to 300 yards. You are looking at Popinjay-style arrangements presenting
stuffed bird-models hanging from long poles. You are looking at reed
wreaths set at various distances. For military professionals (Genoese
especially, here), you would be seeing practice at cadenced volley-fire.
> Need some help. Looking for 14th century Italian archery.compete?
> What would a group of Italian archers do if they got together to
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On Friday, July 16, 2004, at 04:15 PM, Chad and Erin Wilson wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Scherrer" <lordthomas@...>
>> Need some help. Looking for 14th century Italian archery.
>> What would a group of Italian archers do if they got together to
> Tell jokes about the French?
> But seriously, I don't think our medieval brethren are that much
> different from
> us. What do WE do? We dare someone to hit a certain spot on the
> target. We
> see who can shoot the farthest, or the tighest grouping.
- --- Michael Scherrer <lordthomas@...> wrote:
> Need some help. Looking for 14th century ItalianWhat they would have done is shoot crossbows. As far
> What would a group of Italian archers do if they got
> together to compete?
as what they would have talked about would have been
the advantages of composite prod crossbows or wood
prod crossbows for naval, field, and siege In
particular they would have discussed the problems of
glue and humidity for the composite bows. They would
also have discussed the challenge of increased
crossbow production in England, the Holy Roman Empire,
France, and of course Spain. Production would permit
the rise of trained and professional crossbowmen in
these areas challenging the Northern Italian dominance
in supplying such troops.
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