Re: [SCA-Archery] Ideas of mine Sir Jon thought I should post here.
Let me just make a few very brief comments, while acknowledging
that there is a great deal of material here which deserves careful
Travelling teams of archers would be a wonderful idea in a
slightly alternate universe. Practicality intrudes in this one though -
we are not professional athletes, and I can't see too many of us being
able to afford such a venture.
I strongly agree that more period-style shoots is the way to go,
and I am encouraging my people in this regard. In regards thaty, I am
slowly assembling documentation on period shoots, with the notion of
publishing a booklet or pamphlet if I get enough material.
As regards A+S ventures, be advised that there will be an A+S
masterworks competition-demonstration specifically for archery related
stuff at Pennsic XXXII this coming August.
I agree that getting archers to participate in "work details" and
honour guards and whatnot improves visibility, I certainly encourge
Midrealmers to do so, especially in terms of Baronial or local guilds.
But these are initiatives that come best from local people - regionals,
Baronial Captains, and local commanders, who know the local area and
are at the local events. The AG's job is to indicate that this is a
road well to travel along, and to encourage local people to consider
how to do particular things.
Forester Nigel FitzMaurice, Middle Kingdom AG
> You might consider posting this to the SCA archery list as well. You
> have some interesting ideas that might get some discussion there.
> haroldingelsson wrote:
> > What I cannot understand is why it needs to take 10 to 15 years. I
> > have thought overnight about how long such a positive change should
> > take and my guess is 4 to 5 years. I have seen several groups and
> > have made comparisions. 4 to 5 years maybe but not 10 to 15.
> > My suggestions on how to jump start things is to get Sir Jon to
> > a new kind of IKAC where kingdoms form their best groups of archers
> > to compete head to head in traveling competitions. A home and away
> > game like you see in sports and get this team to travel to
> > surrounding kingdoms (and more if possible). There has to be
> > considerable effort to do a war but an archery tournament rather
> > to put together. Put some thing together like 5 shoots. Royal
> > Round; each kingdom does a specific shoot where all the details are
> > known by each competing kingdom so they can train; and each kingdom
> > prepares a secret shoot (within guidelines). At first it might be
> > slow but I can see after a couple of years archers taking great
> > efforts to make the traveling team especially if the hosting kingdom
> > goes out of their way to make the hosting kingdom welcomed.
> > I would start encouraging more weight be placed on period shooting
> > equipment and less and less on modern. Say that placement in the
> > period areas of the IKAC not count for 1.5x or 2x in the standings.
> > Remove the comments in kingdom laws where non-period Royal Round
> > rankings get awarded in court.
> > Get a team together to publish a book on period shoots including
> > pictures. Also include items like how to make a period arrow,
> > bowstrings, etc. Make this a standard better than one one book on
> > hardsuit fighting techniques that I've seen (cannot remember the
> > title but Sir Jon will because I've heard it's been out for at least
> > 20 years).
> > I would encourage those archers that fight rapier and hard suit to
> > create a tournament where all 3 skills are required. Invite the
> > rapier and hard suits to participate and be the first to extend the
> > olive brance. I'm sure several archers would do quite well in such
> > an event although I have heard that in the East there are several
> > kings that have Grand Bowmaster Royal Round rankings.
> > I would get archers to submit to A&S events and try to get those A&S
> > events for archery extremely competitive. Who cares what the
> > Laurel's think. What is important that you compare apples to apples
> > and lets see what happens.
> > I personally think garb is a good thing at practice. In areas like
> > Atenveldt you can practice in garb but it isn't happening. Work on
> > improving the visual image of archers so that they standout in a
> > period fashion than our rapier brothers.
> > I would also encourage Archer Generals and Archery Captains to form
> > work details at events of archers. The first group that volunteers
> > to help clean up are the archers. Make it so that people know that
> > if they need help archers are not only the friendliest group in the
> > SCA but are also the most helpful.
> > 4 of 5 years maybe. Don't need the 10 to 15. Why not start out
> > running and pick up speed from there rather than trying to gradually
> > pick up momentium? Your thoughts...
> > Harold Ingelsson
> > PS> I realize I'm new.
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- In a message dated 12/6/02 10:09:16 AM Mountain Standard Time,
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> --- In SCA-Archery@y..., Chad Wilson <caeman@y...> wrote:
> > --- blockflute1@a... wrote:
> > > An Archer is a Boy Scout?
> > This world would be a nicer place if more people acted like a boy
> > -Caedmon
> > avoiding the soap box
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