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35410Re: [SCA-Archery] Crossbow period back quiver

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  • John Edgerton
    Apr 17, 2014
      If you click on the site:
      The information is in the center. Spain c.1515.

      I think a reason for the back quiver, rather than the more common belt quiver, would be to remove excess items from the belt. In the future I am going to observe period illustrations of archers more carefully to see if there are any archers that do not have belt quivers or a quiver on the ground, to see if they have a pair of straps on their chest that might support a back quiver of this style. It seems likely that the straps would either cross each other or have a connecting strap between them. Otherwise one might think that the quiver would slide down the back as the archer moved. 


      From: J. Hughes <jphughessr@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:36 AM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Crossbow period back quiver

      Sir Jon,
      I found the image very interesting for more than just the quiver.
      Donahoe's Magazine, Volume 18 July 1887 to January 1888 p 91 gives the legend of shooting the bull. A arrow shot into a cave during the shooting of the bull was flung back at the archer. A bishop praying revealed that it was St Michael himself in the cave and the saint wanted a church built on the spot. Since the depictions show crossbowmen as well as hand bowmen, I would presume that one could switch out bolt for arrow.
      There are several paintings of this legend ranging from early Spanish to colonial Mexico. The Shooting of the Bull on Mount Gargano by Master of Armures is for auction at Sotheby’s is one of them
       I was unable to firmly date and place the image from the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Do you have details or should I dispatch my agents in the Philadelphia area?
       Charles O'Connor
      On Thursday, April 17, 2014 3:40 AM, Karl W. Evoy <kweancel@...> wrote:
      Shooting at Holy Cows, tisk tisk :)
      Interesting quiver; I'm not sure I see the advantage over a hip quiver for crossbows, though.
      Maybe one less thing on the belt, esp. while riding?
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:27 PM
      Subject: [SCA-Archery] Crossbow period back quiver

      I found, in the online Philadelphia Art Museum collection, this Spanish 1505 depiction of a back quiver on a crossbowman. This is the first I have seen of such an example. Has anyone else seen one before?


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