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32986Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

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  • John Edgerton
    Apr 4, 2013
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      Nothing. 

      Randal in his earlier post brought up the reasons why the competition was changed to regular target. 
      "I wonder now why both couldn't be allowed, so that people who were willing to deal with cutting the center out of the target backing, figuring out how to support it without the center leg I see on so many butt stands, and chasing down arrows that go through the hole could do so (and how do you tell the difference between pass throughs and misses?). I also wonder whether I am just turning into a trouble maker in my old age!

      Randal"

      The problem with telling hits from arrows that missed the target and passed by would have required something wide and high enough to block all misses from passing the target. This type of added construction would have greatly limited those willing to set up and run the competition. 

      The original rules were not clear as to intent or how to implement the competition. So it was easier just to remove the hole. The general SSAC equipment rules are based on the IKAC rules and do not permit blunts anyway.

      This is why I want all competitions brought up for discussion in the future before voting on them.

      Jon


      From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 8:44:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       

      wow now I am totally confused and I bet others are to so the target has a center hole drawn on it what makes this differnet than a standard target ??



      From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:40 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      There is no "shoot through" obstacle. There is just the target with a circle "hole" drawn upon it. 

      Jon


      From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 8:34:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      Jon,

      My understanding is that there will be a obstacal that the have to shoot thru to hit a target and that for adults the obstacle is 30 yards down range am I correct?



      From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:11 PM
      Su! bject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      Jonathas will be delating the sentence about "
      The object is to shoot through a 'hole' in the target." 

      This does not belong in the revised version of the rules.  The target is 30 yards down range and there is no hole in it. 

      Jon

      From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 6:14:42 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      so my understanding is that the passtrough is 30 yards down range how far behond that is the target. Not trying to be dense here but I want to do it right for my people



      From: John Edgerton <sirjon1@...>
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:40 AM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      From the rules:
      Ranges: 
      Adult Range is 30 yards. 
      Youth Ranges is 15 yards. 

      Jon

      From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
      To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 5:40:00 AM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      My only other question is how far away from the line is the "pass through" target?

      Gaelen



      From: Bill Tait <arwemakere@...>
      To: sca-archery <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 1:55 AM
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Re: Blunts Pass Through update

       
      You can still use the circle to represent the hole, as long as it is scored "inside out", meaning that the arrow cannot touch the edge at all, must be completely inside the circle.
      William Arwemakere
      On Apr 3, 2013 10:35 PM, "ladyjohannatrewpeny" <johannatrueshot@...> wrote:
       
      Um.... passing through what hole? If we delete the hole, then do you mean "Hitting the center circle?"
      Actually, I thought having a target with a hole in the center would be fun!

      I voted for the "blunts pass through" with the understanding that it was for target pointed arrows. Yes a change in name would make it less confusing, however if you change the target it isn't a pass-through either! Let's call it the 'misnomer' - grins.

      I liked the 30 yard distance as my archers need to polish longer distances and this challenge will give us an extra incentive. :)

      I still REALLY would like us to do this AND the competitive with the same target AT the same time. There's still time to add it!!

      Smiles,
      Lady Johanna









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