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  • ICE TIGER
    Sep 30 11:02 AM
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      Each bow weight? Isn't that a bit excessive? I mean fine, a person might shake a bit with a heavier bow but unless it is really severe that doesn't constitute dangerous, just inaccurate. It just generates extra paperwork. Personally I don't really see the need for authorizations but then I shoot on mundane compound lines as well and there is no authorizations or demonstration of skill required so I guess I 'm just used to it that way.
      As for marshals not being able to watch what is going on as William suggests I have a comment. The marshal should not oversee more people than they can handle on a line. Either cut down the number of people on the line or get more marshals or other archers to assist. It is your job to watch the archers and spot if someone is unsafe.
      Dalton

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Terrance Timmons <TerryT@...>
      Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:50 am
      Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com

      > In Atenveldt it is a written test, then hands on with a
      > verbal. we authorize by draw weight and equipment.
      > so being authorized for a 30lb handbow does not authorize you
      > for a 40 lb handbow or a 30lb crossbow. each item is
      > supposed to be authorized (with the handson only part of the
      > autorization if they are already authorized on one type of equipment)
      >
      > Terrance of Granite Mountain
      > Atenveldt
      >
      > PS we are at 19 kingdoms, so that means at least 13 have
      > required authorizations
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Jessica E Baas
      > To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:38 AM
      > Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      >
      >
      > We currently require a written test and an on
      > range safety test (static and speed ends, setup your equipment,
      > etc) that shows an archer is safe on the line. With the next
      > version of our handbook (hopefully within the next 2 months),
      > we'll be moving to a format closer to what Caid's heavy weapons
      > and rapier formats use - a closed book, 6 question verbal test
      > with a practical on range. The new format will appear at GWW for
      > those coming from out of kingdom.
      >
      > And for the other part, if 6 kingdoms do not require TA
      > authorization, that means 11 do (or 12 maybe? I forget how many
      > kingdoms we're up total now).
      >
      > Christina
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: ICE TIGER <ice.tiger@...>
      > To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:30:59 AM
      > Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      >
      > Let me rephrase the second part of the question. What
      > does an archer have to do to authorize in the Kingdom's that
      > require it? I'm looking for the actual requirements for
      > discussion purposes. Anybody know?
      > Dalton
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Jessica E Baas <divinite@sbcglobal. net>
      > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:28 am
      > Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      > To: SCA-Archery@ yahoogroups. com
      >
      > > IIRC there are about 8 kingdoms that require target
      > archery
      > > authorization.
      > > For GWW out of kingdom authorization will be a short,
      > single
      > > event only authorization. It will be three verbal
      > questions and
      > > a short practical to ensure archers are safe on the line.
      > >
      > > Christina
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ____________ _________ _________ __
      > > From: ICE TIGER <ice.tiger@shaw. ca>
      > > To: SCA-Archery@ yahoogroups. com
      > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:59:32 AM
      > > Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      > >
      > >
      > > Just for the sake of curiousity how many Kingdoms
      > actually
      > > require target archers to be authorized and what does
      > an archer
      > > have to do to be authorized?
      > > Dalton
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Jessica E Baas <divinite@sbcglobal . net>
      > > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:47 am
      > > Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      > > To: SCA-Archery@ yahoogroups. com
      > >
      > > > If they have their proof of warrant they won't need
      > to do an
      > > > authorization. If they're an RM and don't bring one
      > they'll
      > > have
      > > > to do
      > > > a short authorization to be able to compete and will
      > not be
      > > able
      > > > to marshal. We only need to do
      > > > authorizations for those archers whose home kingdoms
      > do not
      > > > require authorization for target archery. Those from
      > kingdoms
      > > > that do require authorization will just need to
      > provide proof
      > > of
      > > > authorization as they would in their home kingdom.
      > > >
      > > > Christina
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
      > > > From: John edgerton <sirjon1@pacbell. net>
      > > > To: SCA-Archery@ yahoogroups. com
      > > > Cc: Jessica E Baas <divinite@sbcglobal . net>
      > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:46:02 PM
      > > > Subject: [SCA-Archery] GWW range marshals
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > I was reading the archery rules for Great Western War
      > and
      > > found
      > > > that
      > > > "If you are a visiting Range Marshal, please bring
      > proof of
      > > > warrant." I suppose that is in case of visiting range
      > > > marshals that
      > > > want to help marshal on the range. However, it does
      > not
      > > > make this
      > > > clear. So, if a visiting archer that is also a range
      > > > marshal and
      > > > does not plan to help marshal on the range does not
      > bring
      > > proof
      > > > of
      > > > warrant and plans to shoot, what, if anything, happens?
      > > >
      > > > Jon, West
      > > >
      > > > "Special Notice about Target Archery Authorizations -
      > Caid has
      > > > an
      > > > authorization process for all archers in the Kingdom.
      > You must
      > > > be
      > > > authorized in Caid in order to participate in
      > tournaments. We
      > > > will be
      > > > offering single event authorizations for GWW
      > specifically for
      > > > our
      > > > visitors from other Kingdoms. We are doing this to
      > ensure that
      > > > as
      > > > many archers as possible will be able to participate
      > in the
      > > > festivities on the target range at GWW. If you are a
      > visiting
      > > > Range
      > > > Marshal, please bring proof of warrant. We will be
      > conducting
      > > > authorizations on both Thursday and Friday, Range
      > Marshal
      > > > availability pending. No authorizations will be
      > available
      > > prior
      > > > to
      > > > the tournament on Saturday."
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