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16817Re: Hay vs Straw

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  • Lord Cain Saethydd
    Dec 17, 2004
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      Hay mold... allergies HO!

      heheheh.

      Yes, the settings and such make all the difference.

      Cain

      --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "lindorie55" <sueorintx@h...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Why does somebody need to be wrong here. Obviously you gentlemen
      have
      > different experiences with straw bales, but neither of you has to
      be
      > right, nor wrong. My own experience with bales of all kinds is
      that
      > whether a bale is more dense or less depends a lot on the machine
      it
      > was baled on and the settings. Straw would, scientifically be less
      > dense on the basis of it being made of hollow tubes filled with
      air,
      > but if compressed tightly enough, yes a bale would be quite
      sturdy. I
      > have had reason to be in contact with both tightly baled straw and
      > hay as well as loosely baled hay and straw. Personally I would
      rather
      > try straw as it is cheaper and why waste good feed. Now if I could
      > get moldy bales of hay for free...I'd take that in a second.
      >
      > Both of you are correct in your statements. The only thing I see
      that
      > is wrong is the combative tone of the second post. Please consider
      > the tone of your messages. We are supposed to be part of an
      > organization that bases its existance on chivalric values such as
      > honor and courtesy.
      >
      > Happy Holidays
      >
      > Lady Linet Grey
      >
      > --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, George Mateja <bryn1594@y...>
      > wrote:
      > > You are not correct when you state that "straw is not
      > > as dense, nor as strong as hay. So, the straw bales
      > > will not hold up as well as the hay bales when used
      > > for archery or war barriers." Wire tied straw bales
      > > are packed much more densely than hay and hold up
      > > better than twine packed bales. They have the
      > > advantage of being baled as tightly as round bales and
      > > are able to be carried on and off the field by hand.
      > > They easily last several years under heavy use for
      > > archery.
      > >
      > > Vaclav
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- Lord Cain Saethydd <capt_cain@y...> wrote:
      > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Being a truck driver in the 'AG' (agriculture)
      > > > business, I can
      > > > persoanly attest that there is not a standard size
      > > > to the bales. The
      > > > range from 25lbs to well over 4 tons. Dimension, of
      > > > course, varying
      > > > as well. The prime reason for the variances remains
      > > > in the hands of
      > > > the equipment manufacturers. It seems that each
      > > > manufacturer has a
      > > > large and small bale size, and builds the baling
      > > > machines to fit
      > > > thier own 'special' sizes. =/
      > > >
      > > > Of note, straw is not as dense, nor as strong as
      > > > hay. So, the straw
      > > > bales will not hold up as well as the hay bales when
      > > > used for
      > > > archery or war barriers. However, straw was used,
      > > > and is still, a
      > > > very nice way to cover up mud, and soak up the
      > > > water. The 'Duchey of
      > > > the Blackrose' occasionaly uses it. To have a mud
      > > > field become solid
      > > > and passable, especialy when it is in front of your
      > > > tent, is
      > > > priceless, let me tell you!
      > > >
      > > > Cain
      > > >
      > > > --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, John edgerton
      > > > <sirjon1@p...>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > > Can someone post the average dimensions of a hay
      > > > bale, width,
      > > > length
      > > > > and height?
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks
      > > > >
      > > > > Jon
      > > >
      > > >
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