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Re: [SACC-L] Another "is it mean?"

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  • frank lagana
    On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Johnson, Ellen C. K.
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 20, 2010
      On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Johnson, Ellen C. K. <Johnson@...
      > wrote:

      > Stand by your guidelines, though. Otherwise, students will learn that
      > "anything goes." Dishonesty will not go well for them in the world outside
      > academia....or in life.
      >

      Unless they happen to grow up to work at Goldman Sachs.

      frank

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      > From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com [SACC-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
      > Muckle [bmuckle@...]
      > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:21 PM
      > To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [SACC-L] Another "is it mean?"
      >
      >
      >
      > Earlier today, I was grading an assignment for one of my classes. There
      > were 30 questions that students had to answer in a paragraph each. (one
      > paragraph for each question, for a total of 30 separate paragraphs). Each
      > question was related to scholarly and semi-scholarly articles they were
      > supposed to have read.
      >
      > The Guidelines for the assignment states: "This assignment is to be done
      > individually. Students involved in working on answers with others or sharing
      > answers will receive a failing grade (ranging from failing the assignment to
      > failing the course).
      >
      > Two students were clearly cheating. Ten of the 30 answers were identical.
      > Eleven others were almost identical (e.g 90% of the answers were identical,
      > including entire sentences odd phrasing); and four others were substantially
      > the same (e.g more than half the answers had the same wording).
      >
      > I have already decided that I will fail them both for the course.
      >
      > What I am considering now is whether to announce to the class, either by a
      > group email or when I next meet with them on Friday, that I have caught two
      > students cheating; and offer a general amnesty for those who want to come
      > forward. And that I would give them another set of 30 questions but the most
      > they would only receive 50% of the value of their answers (eg. if they
      > scored 30/30, I would reduce it to 15/30).
      >
      > My thinking is that I have other cheaters in the class, based on the
      > general similarities of answers (mostly incorrect ones), but it would be
      > very difficult to prove. If I announce the general amnesty, I might get some
      > of those people admitting they cheated. The guilty would suffer not only
      > from the penalty but from me messing with their minds. What do you think?
      >
      > Is it ethical? trickery? mean? unfair?
      >
      > Bob
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