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  • kent morris
    public transportation or a bicycle is better... ... From: Bob Muckle To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC
    Message 1 of 19 , Jun 27, 2008
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      public transportation or a bicycle is better...
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      From: Bob Muckle
      To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:08 PM
      Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC


      With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

      So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

      You're welcome.

      Bob





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    • Philip Stein
      T-SACC sounds good! What we need is a corporate sponsor for our Anthropology program. Naming rights for our skeletons. Phil kent morris
      Message 2 of 19 , Jun 27, 2008
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        T-SACC sounds good! What we need is a corporate sponsor for our Anthropology program. Naming rights for our skeletons.

        Phil

        kent morris <km52@...> wrote:
        public transportation or a bicycle is better...
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Bob Muckle
        To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:08 PM
        Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

        With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

        So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

        You're welcome.

        Bob

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      • Mark Lewine
        I love T-SACC! So many other possiblities there! Say it aloud, T-SACC is proud! Sounds positively cellular! Maybe Genentech is a better choice; they will be
        Message 3 of 19 , Jun 27, 2008
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          I love T-SACC! So many other possiblities there! Say it aloud, T-SACC is proud! Sounds positively cellular! Maybe Genentech is a better choice; they will be real big suddenly when the Dems take back the congress big-time and we can sell T-SACC cell phones with TSACC cells on the brand! Sorry, i have always wanted to apply anthro to advertising...pray they do not hire me.
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Philip Stein
          To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:34 PM
          Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC


          T-SACC sounds good! What we need is a corporate sponsor for our Anthropology program. Naming rights for our skeletons.

          Phil

          kent morris <km52@...> wrote:
          public transportation or a bicycle is better...
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Bob Muckle
          To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:08 PM
          Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

          With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

          So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

          You're welcome.

          Bob

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        • Johnson, Ellen C. K.
          I do so enjoy the humor of my colleagues, Bob Muckle, Phil Stein, Mark Lewine, etc. I sit here, as I have been doing at least 3-4 afternoons a week for some
          Message 4 of 19 , Jun 27, 2008
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            I do so enjoy the humor of my colleagues, Bob Muckle, Phil Stein, Mark
            Lewine, etc. I sit here, as I have been doing at least 3-4 afternoons a
            week for some weeks now, clearing out my office of 21 years worth of
            books, teaching and conference materials, and PAPER! Every crannie had
            been filled. Most of it will just have to be carried out in boxes and
            sorted later. Your smiling commentary lifts my spirits.

            Your newly-retired colleague (though I will teach one course in the fall
            and one in the spring),

            Ellen Johnson



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            From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SACC-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            Of Mark Lewine
            Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:47 PM
            To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC



            I love T-SACC! So many other possiblities there! Say it aloud, T-SACC is
            proud! Sounds positively cellular! Maybe Genentech is a better choice;
            they will be real big suddenly when the Dems take back the congress
            big-time and we can sell T-SACC cell phones with TSACC cells on the
            brand! Sorry, i have always wanted to apply anthro to advertising...pray
            they do not hire me.
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Philip Stein
            To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SACC-L%40yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:34 PM
            Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC

            T-SACC sounds good! What we need is a corporate sponsor for our
            Anthropology program. Naming rights for our skeletons.

            Phil

            kent morris <km52@... <mailto:km52%40roadrunner.com> > wrote:
            public transportation or a bicycle is better...
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Bob Muckle
            To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SACC-L%40yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:08 PM
            Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

            With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a
            little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be
            kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest
            engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a
            surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good
            in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper
            than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive
            anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked
            out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

            So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of
            education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can
            become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

            You're welcome.

            Bob

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          • Lloyd Miller
            Golly gee, some of you Prius people get better gas mileage than my Honda Goldwing motorcycle, even when I don t exceed speed limits. I bought a new car this
            Message 5 of 19 , Jun 27, 2008
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              Golly gee, some of you Prius people get better gas mileage than my
              Honda Goldwing motorcycle, even when I don't exceed speed limits.

              I bought a new car this year and seriously considered a Prius. With
              the help of Consumer Reports, I researched and compared it with a
              Honda Civic (non-hybrid). With the government hybrid rebate I would
              have done okay, but it was no longer available. So, factoring in
              initial costs and gas mileage averages among other things over a 5-
              year period, the Prius would have cost me about a thousand dollars
              more. Consequently, I replaced my beloved 2000 Honda Civic EX coup
              with a 2008 Honda Civic EX coup. It averages about 35 mpg mixed
              driving if I don't exceed speed limits. Incidentally, I've found that
              staying below 70 mph saves considerable mileage in both the bike and
              car.

              So Bob, I stand with you against any impeachment proceedings that
              might be initiated. After all, not everyone can have a Prius, and
              wouldn't it be boring if we all did? Also, if SACC doesn't support
              diversity in its ranks, what organization could be expected to do so?

              And you can also count on me for several drinks at the next SACC
              meeting. I've never hung out with many real university professors, so
              I'm looking forward to the experience.

              LLoyd


              On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Bob Muckle wrote:

              > With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started
              > feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First,
              > that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban,
              > with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not
              > nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store
              > it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the
              > days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up
              > truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start
              > impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up
              > is a Toyota pick-up!
              >
              > So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization
              > of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC?
              > We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).
              >
              > You're welcome.
              >
              > Bob
              >
              >
              >



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            • Popplestone, Ann
              Can we create a hi-mileage caucus for Prius and motorcycle operators? Anybody commute by horse? Ann Popplestone AAB, BA, MA CCC Metro TLC 216-987-3584
              Message 6 of 19 , Jun 28, 2008
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                Can we create a hi-mileage caucus for Prius and motorcycle operators?
                Anybody commute by horse? <g>



                Ann Popplestone AAB, BA, MA

                CCC Metro TLC



                216-987-3584

                FAX:330-867-6375

                ________________________________

                From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SACC-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                Of Lloyd Miller
                Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:11 PM
                To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC



                Golly gee, some of you Prius people get better gas mileage than my
                Honda Goldwing motorcycle, even when I don't exceed speed limits.

                I bought a new car this year and seriously considered a Prius. With
                the help of Consumer Reports, I researched and compared it with a
                Honda Civic (non-hybrid). With the government hybrid rebate I would
                have done okay, but it was no longer available. So, factoring in
                initial costs and gas mileage averages among other things over a 5-
                year period, the Prius would have cost me about a thousand dollars
                more. Consequently, I replaced my beloved 2000 Honda Civic EX coup
                with a 2008 Honda Civic EX coup. It averages about 35 mpg mixed
                driving if I don't exceed speed limits. Incidentally, I've found that
                staying below 70 mph saves considerable mileage in both the bike and
                car.

                So Bob, I stand with you against any impeachment proceedings that
                might be initiated. After all, not everyone can have a Prius, and
                wouldn't it be boring if we all did? Also, if SACC doesn't support
                diversity in its ranks, what organization could be expected to do so?

                And you can also count on me for several drinks at the next SACC
                meeting. I've never hung out with many real university professors, so
                I'm looking forward to the experience.

                LLoyd

                On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Bob Muckle wrote:

                > With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started
                > feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First,
                > that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban,
                > with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not
                > nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store
                > it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the
                > days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up
                > truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start
                > impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up
                > is a Toyota pick-up!
                >
                > So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization
                > of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC?
                > We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).
                >
                > You're welcome.
                >
                > Bob
                >
                >
                >

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              • George Thomas
                Hey, this is entirely on the subject: choices, limitations, technology and modes of transportation in one s changing society. I ll bite: I d acquire a Prius
                Message 7 of 19 , Jun 30, 2008
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                  Hey, this is entirely on the subject: choices, limitations, technology and modes of transportation in one's changing society. I'll bite:
                  I'd acquire a Prius if they had a pickup truck model. I have lots of hauling to do involving things that don't go well in the back of a leather-upholstered sedan.
                  My classic 1968 VW bug gets 28 mpg. This was standard economy and efficiency back when normal mileage ranged from 5 to 10 mpg. Admiring passers-by gush about my fuel savings, but I regularly point out that today's Cadillacs do better.
                  Right now I'm shopping around among the smaller pickups -- Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, etc. My last pickup was a no-frills, tiny 1993 Toyota. (Yes, fuel-savers, applause and kudos will be accepted by my publicist). The tiny German "Smart Car," due on the market next year, is intriguing. You'll recognize one if you visualize a small pickup truck with the rear axle moved forward and the load bed torched off. It can also be described as a couch with wheels and a roof. Should compete with the Prius.
                  But back to regular trucks, I once shared Bob's impression (mostly from folklore) that Toyotas are great on gas and last forever. Latest research into the Toyota Tacoma unearthed a professional auto mechanic who sold his because he was disappointed with the gas mileage on the new, enlarged Tacoma (under 20 mpg), and bought a Tundra. At least Tundra marketing doesn't claim it's a fuel-saver, he said.
                  A prime example of energy savings motivated by revenge.
                  The shopping, astonishing war-stories and research continue. Bicycle commuting would be great if I could manage to decrease my commutation distance below 60 mi. round trip. I thoroughly enjoyed 2 and a half years of bicycle commuting while in Germany, where they seem to have mastered the art of keeping jobs closer to home (4 or 5 miles).
                  Next we will consider the ox cart.
                  George

                  Re: T-SACC
                  Posted by: "Lloyd Miller" lloyd.miller@...
                  Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:10 pm ((PDT))

                  Golly gee, some of you Prius people get better gas mileage than my
                  Honda Goldwing motorcycle, even when I don't exceed speed limits.

                  I bought a new car this year and seriously considered a Prius. With
                  the help of Consumer Reports, I researched and compared it with a
                  Honda Civic (non-hybrid). With the government hybrid rebate I would
                  have done okay, but it was no longer available. So, factoring in
                  initial costs and gas mileage averages among other things over a 5-
                  year period, the Prius would have cost me about a thousand dollars
                  more. Consequently, I replaced my beloved 2000 Honda Civic EX coup
                  with a 2008 Honda Civic EX coup. It averages about 35 mpg mixed
                  driving if I don't exceed speed limits. Incidentally, I've found that

                  staying below 70 mph saves considerable mileage in both the bike and
                  car.

                  So Bob, I stand with you against any impeachment proceedings that
                  might be initiated. After all, not everyone can have a Prius, and
                  wouldn't it be boring if we all did? Also, if SACC doesn't support
                  diversity in its ranks, what organization could be expected to do so?

                  And you can also count on me for several drinks at the next SACC
                  meeting. I've never hung out with many real university professors, so

                  I'm looking forward to the experience.

                  LLoyd


                  On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Bob Muckle wrote:

                  > With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started
                  > feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First,
                  > that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban,
                  > with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not
                  > nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store

                  > it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the

                  > days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up
                  > truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start
                  > impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up
                  > is a Toyota pick-up!
                  >
                  > So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization

                  > of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC?
                  > We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).
                  >
                  > You're welcome.
                  >
                  > Bob
                  >




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                • rob edwards
                  Hi all, I have enjoyed this discussion on vehicles, the adventures of Muckle and all. George, I would like to recommend that you look at a Honda Element as a
                  Message 8 of 19 , Jul 1, 2008
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                    Hi all, I have enjoyed this discussion on vehicles, the adventures of
                    Muckle and all. George, I would like to recommend that you look at a
                    Honda Element as a vehicle that can haul a lot in a small space (42 file
                    boxes in the back with seats out and still have rear visability) and
                    even pull a small trailer. I have had one for over four years and am
                    very satisfied. Mileage is around 20 mile/gal depending on your speed.
                    Very easy to clean the "box".
                    I finished my last field class (survey) last week and I am now
                    officially retired although committed to assist our new hire, Dustin
                    McKenzie as he jumps in next week to the field excavation class. My
                    email remains the same but my Cabrillo phone will be 831-479-6727. And
                    Yes Bob, I will also be glad to contribute to your alcohol problem. See
                    you in AZ. Julie says hi also.

                    George Thomas wrote:
                    >
                    > Hey, this is entirely on the subject: choices, limitations, technology
                    > and modes of transportation in one's changing society. I'll bite:
                    > I'd acquire a Prius if they had a pickup truck model. I have lots of
                    > hauling to do involving things that don't go well in the back of a
                    > leather-upholstered sedan.
                    > My classic 1968 VW bug gets 28 mpg. This was standard economy and
                    > efficiency back when normal mileage ranged from 5 to 10 mpg. Admiring
                    > passers-by gush about my fuel savings, but I regularly point out that
                    > today's Cadillacs do better.
                    > Right now I'm shopping around among the smaller pickups -- Chevy
                    > Colorado, Ford Ranger, etc. My last pickup was a no-frills, tiny 1993
                    > Toyota. (Yes, fuel-savers, applause and kudos will be accepted by my
                    > publicist). The tiny German "Smart Car," due on the market next year,
                    > is intriguing. You'll recognize one if you visualize a small pickup
                    > truck with the rear axle moved forward and the load bed torched off.
                    > It can also be described as a couch with wheels and a roof. Should
                    > compete with the Prius.
                    > But back to regular trucks, I once shared Bob's impression (mostly
                    > from folklore) that Toyotas are great on gas and last forever. Latest
                    > research into the Toyota Tacoma unearthed a professional auto mechanic
                    > who sold his because he was disappointed with the gas mileage on the
                    > new, enlarged Tacoma (under 20 mpg), and bought a Tundra. At least
                    > Tundra marketing doesn't claim it's a fuel-saver, he said.
                    > A prime example of energy savings motivated by revenge.
                    > The shopping, astonishing war-stories and research continue. Bicycle
                    > commuting would be great if I could manage to decrease my commutation
                    > distance below 60 mi. round trip. I thoroughly enjoyed 2 and a half
                    > years of bicycle commuting while in Germany, where they seem to have
                    > mastered the art of keeping jobs closer to home (4 or 5 miles).
                    > Next we will consider the ox cart.
                    > George
                    >
                    > Re: T-SACC
                    > Posted by: "Lloyd Miller" lloyd.miller@...
                    > <mailto:lloyd.miller%40mchsi.com>
                    > Date: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:10 pm ((PDT))
                    >
                    > Golly gee, some of you Prius people get better gas mileage than my
                    > Honda Goldwing motorcycle, even when I don't exceed speed limits.
                    >
                    > I bought a new car this year and seriously considered a Prius. With
                    > the help of Consumer Reports, I researched and compared it with a
                    > Honda Civic (non-hybrid). With the government hybrid rebate I would
                    > have done okay, but it was no longer available. So, factoring in
                    > initial costs and gas mileage averages among other things over a 5-
                    > year period, the Prius would have cost me about a thousand dollars
                    > more. Consequently, I replaced my beloved 2000 Honda Civic EX coup
                    > with a 2008 Honda Civic EX coup. It averages about 35 mpg mixed
                    > driving if I don't exceed speed limits. Incidentally, I've found that
                    >
                    > staying below 70 mph saves considerable mileage in both the bike and
                    > car.
                    >
                    > So Bob, I stand with you against any impeachment proceedings that
                    > might be initiated. After all, not everyone can have a Prius, and
                    > wouldn't it be boring if we all did? Also, if SACC doesn't support
                    > diversity in its ranks, what organization could be expected to do so?
                    >
                    > And you can also count on me for several drinks at the next SACC
                    > meeting. I've never hung out with many real university professors, so
                    >
                    > I'm looking forward to the experience.
                    >
                    > LLoyd
                    >
                    > On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Bob Muckle wrote:
                    >
                    > > With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started
                    > > feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First,
                    > > that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban,
                    > > with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not
                    > > nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store
                    >
                    > > it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the
                    >
                    > > days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up
                    > > truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start
                    > > impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up
                    > > is a Toyota pick-up!
                    > >
                    > > So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization
                    >
                    > > of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC?
                    > > We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).
                    > >
                    > > You're welcome.
                    > >
                    > > Bob
                    > >
                    >
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                    >
                    >


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                  • Mark Lewine
                    ... From: Bob Muckle To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota
                    Message 9 of 19 , Dec 5, 2008
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                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Bob Muckle
                      To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                      Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC


                      With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                      So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

                      You're welcome.

                      Bob






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                    • Mark Lewine
                      Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing with an anthropological perspective...so far, we have come up with some scary ideas to
                      Message 10 of 19 , Dec 5, 2008
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                        Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing with an anthropological perspective...so far, we have come up with some scary ideas to test with some ethnographic focus groups: power point presentations with 'branded' symbols relating to educational consumers; text books partly subsidized by ads thus lowering book costs to students and increasing fees to published faculty authors...faculty wearing identifiable 'brands', using identifiable 'brands' of computers, publishers, news sources, book stores, office supplies stores, etc...anything to add, capitalist pigs of the future?

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Bob Muckle
                        To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
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                        With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                        So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

                        You're welcome.

                        Bob






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                      • Johnson, Ellen C. K.
                        N-SACC? (Nissan-SACC?) I do so enjoy these fun emails. Ellen Johnson ________________________________ From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mark Lewine
                        Message 11 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                          N-SACC? (Nissan-SACC?)
                          I do so enjoy these fun emails.
                          Ellen Johnson

                          ________________________________

                          From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mark Lewine
                          Sent: Fri 12/5/2008 11:25 PM
                          To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC




                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Bob Muckle
                          To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SACC-L%40yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                          Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

                          With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                          So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

                          You're welcome.

                          Bob

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                        • Lloyd Miller
                          Oh gosh, around Des Moines some public buildings now have brand names. The baseball stadium, once named to honor a beloved player, is now named for a
                          Message 12 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                            Oh gosh, around Des Moines some public buildings now have 'brand'
                            names. The baseball stadium, once named to honor a beloved player, is
                            now named for a leading local insurance company. Two recently built
                            "civic" sports and entertainment centers are named, respectively, for
                            a state grocery chain and the Wells Fargo bank. It's very Orwellian...
                            Lloyd




                            On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:33 PM, Mark Lewine wrote:

                            > Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing
                            > with an anthropological perspective...so far, we have come up with
                            > some scary ideas to test with some ethnographic focus groups: power
                            > point presentations with 'branded' symbols relating to educational
                            > consumers; text books partly subsidized by ads thus lowering book
                            > costs to students and increasing fees to published faculty
                            > authors...faculty wearing identifiable 'brands', using identifiable
                            > 'brands' of computers, publishers, news sources, book stores, office
                            > supplies stores, etc...anything to add, capitalist pigs of the future?
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: Bob Muckle
                            > To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                            > Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC
                            >
                            > With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started
                            > feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First,
                            > that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban,
                            > with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not
                            > nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store
                            > it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the
                            > days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up
                            > truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start
                            > impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up
                            > is a Toyota pick-up!
                            >
                            > So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization
                            > of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC?
                            > We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).
                            >
                            > You're welcome.
                            >
                            > Bob
                            >
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                          • Andrew J Petto
                            You may be joking, but a math teacher in San Diego responded to budget cuts that limited his access to photocopying and paper by selling ads on his exams. It
                            Message 13 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                              You may be joking, but a math teacher in San Diego responded to budget cuts that limited his access to photocopying and paper by selling ads on his exams. It was on the CBC's As-It-Happens earlier this week!

                              Anj

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                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: "Mark Lewine" <mlewine@...>
                              To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 11:25:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
                              Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC







                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: Bob Muckle
                              To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                              Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

                              With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                              So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

                              You're welcome.

                              Bob

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                            • frank lagana
                              ... From: Lloyd Miller To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC ... Here
                              Message 14 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: "Lloyd Miller" <lloyd.miller@...>
                                To: <SACC-L@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:10 AM
                                Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC


                                > Oh gosh, around Des Moines some public buildings now have 'brand'
                                > names. The baseball stadium, once named to honor a beloved player, is
                                > now named for a leading local insurance company. Two recently built
                                > "civic" sports and entertainment centers are named, respectively, for
                                > a state grocery chain and the Wells Fargo bank. It's very Orwellian...
                                > Lloyd
                                >
                                >
                                Here in New York City, the NY Mets are building themselves a new stadium to
                                open in time for next season. It will replace what was called Shea Stadium.
                                The new stadium will be named Citgroup Stadium; 200 million dollars over 10
                                years for naming rights. Of course, that's the same Citigroup that's been
                                the recipient of who knows how many billions of dollars in federal bailout
                                money.

                                frank
                              • Bob Muckle
                                I m afraid we are already on the way down this very slippery slope. It makes me so uncomortable. I haven t seen anything like this in anthropology, but just
                                Message 15 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                                  I'm afraid we are already on the way down this very slippery slope. It makes me so uncomortable.

                                  I haven't seen anything like this in anthropology, but just last week a geography colleague of mine was showing me a textbook he was thinking of using. I forget the exact title but it was published by National Geographic, in partnership, I think with Wiley. I was skimming through it, which was almost all photos, and was astounded with what appears to be advertising by National Geographic in the form of their logo featured very prominently underneath the photos. I know that National Geographic has been publishing atlases and books for K-12 for some time, but wasn't aware they were infiltrating the college and university textbook market.

                                  And to add to your list....how about teaching in building or classrooms with the names of corporate sponsors on them? That makes me pretty uncomfortable.

                                  Its interesting to think about where our own personal lines might be. I wonder, for example, what if Porshe, became the official car of Capilano and facuty were each given one to drive.

                                  If anybody is interested, my GMC Suburban is still for sale. I'm advertising it now as a big red lawn ornament. It might make a nice Christmas decoration.

                                  Bob

                                  >>> "Mark Lewine" <mlewine@...> 12/05/08 9:33 PM >>>
                                  Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing with an anthropological perspective...so far, we have come up with some scary ideas to test with some ethnographic focus groups: power point presentations with 'branded' symbols relating to educational consumers; text books partly subsidized by ads thus lowering book costs to students and increasing fees to published faculty authors...faculty wearing identifiable 'brands', using identifiable 'brands' of computers, publishers, news sources, book stores, office supplies stores, etc...anything to add, capitalist pigs of the future?

                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: Bob Muckle
                                  To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                                  Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC


                                  With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                                  So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC).

                                  You're welcome.

                                  Bob






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                                • Philip Stein
                                  Of course we ve had endowed chairs for centuries. I can see it now: Wal-Mart Professor of Anthropology. Anyway naming rights go cheap at my college, although
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                                    Of course we've had endowed chairs for centuries. I can see it now: "Wal-Mart Professor of Anthropology." Anyway naming rights go cheap at my college, although we have an n of 1 at present. But if someone wants to give us $100K to buy some skulls, I'll gladly put a plaque up in the classroom. It's the least we can do!
                                     
                                    Phil

                                    --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Bob Muckle <bmuckle@...> wrote:

                                    From: Bob Muckle <bmuckle@...>
                                    Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC
                                    To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 5:33 PM






                                    I'm afraid we are already on the way down this very slippery slope. It makes me so uncomortable.

                                    I haven't seen anything like this in anthropology, but just last week a geography colleague of mine was showing me a textbook he was thinking of using. I forget the exact title but it was published by National Geographic, in partnership, I think with Wiley. I was skimming through it, which was almost all photos, and was astounded with what appears to be advertising by National Geographic in the form of their logo featured very prominently underneath the photos. I know that National Geographic has been publishing atlases and books for K-12 for some time, but wasn't aware they were infiltrating the college and university textbook market.

                                    And to add to your list....how about teaching in building or classrooms with the names of corporate sponsors on them? That makes me pretty uncomfortable.

                                    Its interesting to think about where our own personal lines might be. I wonder, for example, what if Porshe, became the official car of Capilano and facuty were each given one to drive.

                                    If anybody is interested, my GMC Suburban is still for sale. I'm advertising it now as a big red lawn ornament. It might make a nice Christmas decoration.

                                    Bob

                                    >>> "Mark Lewine" <mlewine@wowway. com> 12/05/08 9:33 PM >>>
                                    Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing with an anthropological perspective. ..so far, we have come up with some scary ideas to test with some ethnographic focus groups: power point presentations with 'branded' symbols relating to educational consumers; text books partly subsidized by ads thus lowering book costs to students and increasing fees to published faculty authors...faculty wearing identifiable 'brands', using identifiable 'brands' of computers, publishers, news sources, book stores, office supplies stores, etc...anything to add, capitalist pigs of the future?

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Bob Muckle
                                    To: SACC-L@yahoogroups. com
                                    Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                                    Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

                                    With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                                    So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC) .

                                    You're welcome.

                                    Bob

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                                  • mep1mep
                                    I am holding out for the Anthropologie Professor of Anthropology A person has to have their standards, after all. Pam ________________________________ From:
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Dec 6, 2008
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                                      I am holding out for the Anthropologie Professor of Anthropology

                                      A person has to have their standards, after all.

                                      Pam




                                      ________________________________
                                      From: Philip Stein <stein39@...>
                                      To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 9:24:33 PM
                                      Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC


                                      Of course we've had endowed chairs for centuries. I can see it now: "Wal-Mart Professor of Anthropology. " Anyway naming rights go cheap at my college, although we have an n of 1 at present. But if someone wants to give us $100K to buy some skulls, I'll gladly put a plaque up in the classroom. It's the least we can do!
                                       
                                      Phil

                                      --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Bob Muckle <bmuckle@capilanou. ca> wrote:

                                      From: Bob Muckle <bmuckle@capilanou. ca>
                                      Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC
                                      To: SACC-L@yahoogroups. com
                                      Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 5:33 PM

                                      I'm afraid we are already on the way down this very slippery slope. It makes me so uncomortable.

                                      I haven't seen anything like this in anthropology, but just last week a geography colleague of mine was showing me a textbook he was thinking of using. I forget the exact title but it was published by National Geographic, in partnership, I think with Wiley. I was skimming through it, which was almost all photos, and was astounded with what appears to be advertising by National Geographic in the form of their logo featured very prominently underneath the photos. I know that National Geographic has been publishing atlases and books for K-12 for some time, but wasn't aware they were infiltrating the college and university textbook market.

                                      And to add to your list....how about teaching in building or classrooms with the names of corporate sponsors on them? That makes me pretty uncomfortable.

                                      Its interesting to think about where our own personal lines might be. I wonder, for example, what if Porshe, became the official car of Capilano and facuty were each given one to drive.

                                      If anybody is interested, my GMC Suburban is still for sale. I'm advertising it now as a big red lawn ornament. It might make a nice Christmas decoration.

                                      Bob

                                      >>> "Mark Lewine" <mlewine@wowway. com> 12/05/08 9:33 PM >>>
                                      Yes, with my urban cultures class, we are exploring social marketing with an anthropological perspective. ..so far, we have come up with some scary ideas to test with some ethnographic focus groups: power point presentations with 'branded' symbols relating to educational consumers; text books partly subsidized by ads thus lowering book costs to students and increasing fees to published faculty authors...faculty wearing identifiable 'brands', using identifiable 'brands' of computers, publishers, news sources, book stores, office supplies stores, etc...anything to add, capitalist pigs of the future?

                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      From: Bob Muckle
                                      To: SACC-L@yahoogroups. com
                                      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:08 PM
                                      Subject: [SACC-L] T-SACC

                                      With all this SACC-L gushing about the Toyota Prius, I started feeling a little guilty, but not a lot. I got to thinking. First, that I might be kicked out of SACC for driving a big old Suburban, with the biggest engine that fits. But..I am trying to sell it. Not nay takers. What a surprise. So, now I'm thinking I might just store it. It might look good in a museum of the late 20th century. "In the days when gas was cheaper than water." Besides I've got a pick-up truck that I usually drive anyway. Now...before you start impeachment proceedings to get me kicked out of SACC....the pick up is a Toyota pick-up!

                                      So, now I'm thinking we can just buy wholly into the corporatization of education in North America. Why not sell naming rights to SACC? We can become T-SACC (Toyota-SACC) .

                                      You're welcome.

                                      Bob

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                                    • Dianne Chidester
                                      Remember Enron Stadium ? Wonder what will happen as some of these companies tank ? ________________________________ From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                                      Message 18 of 19 , Dec 8, 2008
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                                        Remember "Enron Stadium"? Wonder what will happen as some of these
                                        companies "tank"?



                                        ________________________________

                                        From: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SACC-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                                        Of frank lagana
                                        Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:34 PM
                                        To: SACC-L@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC




                                        ----- Original Message -----
                                        From: "Lloyd Miller" <lloyd.miller@...
                                        <mailto:lloyd.miller%40mchsi.com> >
                                        To: <SACC-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SACC-L%40yahoogroups.com> >
                                        Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:10 AM
                                        Subject: Re: [SACC-L] T-SACC

                                        > Oh gosh, around Des Moines some public buildings now have 'brand'
                                        > names. The baseball stadium, once named to honor a beloved player, is
                                        > now named for a leading local insurance company. Two recently built
                                        > "civic" sports and entertainment centers are named, respectively, for
                                        > a state grocery chain and the Wells Fargo bank. It's very Orwellian...
                                        > Lloyd
                                        >
                                        >
                                        Here in New York City, the NY Mets are building themselves a new stadium
                                        to
                                        open in time for next season. It will replace what was called Shea
                                        Stadium.
                                        The new stadium will be named Citgroup Stadium; 200 million dollars over
                                        10
                                        years for naming rights. Of course, that's the same Citigroup that's
                                        been
                                        the recipient of who knows how many billions of dollars in federal
                                        bailout
                                        money.

                                        frank




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