Re: [RoyalGuildofDefense] Re: Yes!
- Thank you Kevin and Staffan for sharing your thoughts, ideas and
encouraging additional ways we can work in our period studies. As many
of us are still in the learning curve on period manuals in various areas
(geographical) of the Kingdom, these ideas help and encourage others to
take a stab at it.
As taken from our charter, "The Royal Guild of Fence was established for
the promotion and teaching of rapier combat within the West Kingdom. The
Guild is a recognized organization for the training and development of
period fencing." and further "are empowered to promote, teach and serve
all manner of things that pertain to the good ordering of the practice
of the Period Arte and Science of Rapier Combat within the Kingdom of
the West." So while we support Rapier combat in the West, we want to
promote the study of Historical practices and share that knowledge with
others. As we've seen in this discussion there are various ways we can
I agree that in a workshop you may only be able to pick up on one or two
concepts at that time and need to keep working away at it. One
suggestion for activities at events would be to focus on one item, say a
study of the Buckler and what diGrassi has to say concerning the use of
that style. Run a short work shop and then sponsor a tourney in that
form, so everyone has a chance to work with it. Just one suggestion.
Brigit, I know you've done research on women through our times. Have
you had a chance to see what is out there about information on female
rapier fighters and say stories found about them. That could be a cool
subject for a social and still be within our focus of studying and
promoting the historical aspect. It doesn't always need to be about the
hands on aspect of how we do things, there is also the history that we
Great stuff! Thanks.
- --- In RoyalGuildofDefense@yahoogroups.com, Cerridwen Coedwig
> I have the book too. "Making" the folks at our practice go through
> anything is not very likely.
> We have several people who have been around for a while. David
> was going through Capo Ferro plate by plate, but I don't think theNo, we did not finish the plate by plate walk through of CF. Mostly
> process was completed........
this was due to the horrendous run of bad weather that seemed as if
it was never going to end. But I have not pushed to continue the
sessions as I began to fully appreciate that the CF book is more a
set of drills than it is a tutorial. Drills are what you do to
reinforce, and commit to muscle memory, the precepts that you have
already learned at least intellectually. And while the CF drills can
be used as an adjunct to teaching the precepts, it is of limited
usefulness, and can even be counterproductive, to members of the
group who do not have a full grasp of the precepts the drills are
intended to refine.
Doing one plate a week as a goal is not, in my opinion, useful to
those who are trying to learn to fence (though It may be useful to
those who already have a good grounding in another system and want to
gain an over view of CF).
For those who are not already well grounded in the basic concepts of
fencing, I believe, the instructor needs to spend as much time on the
basic moves and concepts as are required rather than attempting to
finish CF in any given time frame or order. I would also add the
wisdom of learning even a small number of moves perfectly over
learning a book full of moves imperfectly.
So, I doubt I will ever again attempt to "go through" CF, or any
other manuscript, as a part of a practice.
I do think that it is possible to teach CF as a system, and this
presupposes extrapolating a lot from what the instructor already
knows of the basics of fencing, but I don't see "doing the plates" as
the way to do it.