Standards, umbrellas and new guys
> I, and my family, have been in the hobby for about five years nowThe short answer to this is... you haven't found the right
> have found that among the people in the hobby we have the most
> respect for, those that can answer any question and will openly
> you where they found the information, are surprisingly not in any
unit. I don't know where you are located, but there are quite a bit
of serious historians and researchers in many units down here. A
lot of us write books about this information so that we can spread
the information on a large scale. These are folks like Larry
Babits, Mike Cecere, Todd Braisted, and many others (though Todd is
not quite from "here"... you get my meaning). So if you want to
find a unit that does some serious research and those who also let
everyone know where the information came from, you need to find a
better unit. Heck, make your own.
> If you can carry a musket you are welcome, the less you knowUnfortunately in a military camp, and a battle reenactment, the
> the better, and woman are there strictly for support.
women are in a supporting role. It is different in civilian type
scenarios, but on the battlefield THE show is the soldiers. There's
no way to sugar coat that one, since the fight is what folks come to
see, or it is what the reenactment is about. There have been
several posts by women of the things that they do at events, and it
covers a lot of different areas. So women can find their niche in a
predominately male, battle scenario.
>We could start our own unit but, as it was soI don't think anyone said that you don't have a right to start a
> specifically pointed out to another member on this list, we as
> newbies have no right to start a unit.
unit. Go ahead, make one. The only thing that is mentioned here is
that you may be reinventing the wheel. There may be another unit
that does what you like. The other big problem with new folks
starting a unit is that you will be the blind leading the blind for
a long time. But you want to do it, go right ahead.
> A possible solution for this I would suggest is for a unit such asThat would definately not work down here (The South). Though
> the BAR being in over all control of the hobby and to set
> for all the units.
there are a few units that belong to the BAR, the bulk of the units
do not belong to any organization that has control over them. A few
of us belong to the Continental Line, but they do not set the
standards for our unit. They have the minimum standard required,
but they cannot tell my unit what to wear or what to do, since it
would not make any sense to do so. Who would know more about my
unit? Me, or someone sitting 500 miles away who is not in my unit?
If any umbrella attempted to become a large, beauracratic
dicatorship, we would merely not join and continue to do what we
always have down here. The next big 225th event down here is the
battle of Cowpens. This is a great example for how we do things
here. No umbrella is running that event, a single unit is, and they
are getting help from other units.
>It sure would beA few years ago someone posted the different types of reenactors
> nice to attend an event without having to hear someone say "there
> shouldn't be any public at the events" or "I wish the stupid
> would leave so we can have fun".
on this list. I am at work right now, wasting your taxpayers
dollars, so I don't have a file of it to tap into. However it
listed the reasons why folks do this and the different types of
One was the educator. This was the type of reenactor who wants to
interact with the public, want to educate them.
One was the powder burner. This one just wants to do the fight.
Another was the experience junkie, wanting to live it exactly like
it was then, and try to reach that certain reenactor "nirvana"
of "being there".
I am one who does not like to interact with the public at all. I
will, but I won't do it willingly. This is mainly because I am a
teacher and I have to teach all the time. Reenactments are my time
away from standing up and giving a lecture.
Just recently I was asked to be the Sergeant Major for a unit at
Whitpain. I told them that I just wanted to be a private, no
leadership roles for me there. This is because I have also led
troops in one fashion or another since I was 19 years old.
Sometimes you don't want to be in charge, and just want to kick
back. So I would be guilty as one of those folks who would like to
get away from the public.
The great thing about reenacting is that in any unit you can find
all the different types, and there will always be someone to hop out
in front of the public and teach them about 18th century life.
> The last item I have on my mind is more of a question. We wereAgain, you need to find the unit that fits you. Some do not
> by one unit that our daughter could not be a musician as "that
> not be historically accurate".
allow women, or beards or anything such as this in their ranks.
Nothing wrong with that, since each unit controls its own
standards. However other units do. Down here the fife and drum
section of the field looks like a sorority at times.
>Do weThere is no right to belong to someone else's unit. If a unit
> continue with a double standard on historical accuracy or do we
> exclude a large number of people that have a right to enjoy this
> hobby as well?
excludes certain folks, and no one joins that unit, it will die
off. However if that same unit excludes anyone that doesn't meet
its standards, and they thrive, there's not much you can say about
it. I don't look at it as a double standard. They put out their
standards, and they live by it. It would only be a double standard
if they didn't actually adhere to their own rules.
We don't have any rule that says no women can fight in the
ranks. However we also have never had any woman wanted to do it, so
it never really has come up yet. We do tell some members that we
may have to shave off beards for certain events. If they don't want
to shave we don't tell them to quit, we just tell them they can't
come for that one specified event that requires shaving. S
Each unit makes up their own rules, and that is what is great
about this hobby. There is a unit out there, whether you are a
stitch counting Nazi of the highest order, or a bearded Jeremiah
Johnson wannabe (WAUGH!).
Find the one that fits you and run with it.