Re: Crates, Chests and Boxes... oh my!! - And Markings.
- Hi Peggy;
The BAR(NW) plan by Ed Schweinfurth follows the dimensions and methods
of original chests closely.
There were several variations of similar chests - in fact no two of
the six surviving chests that I know of are exactly alike.
The rabbeted side/end junction was common. Sometimes the bottom was
rabbetted, sometimes it was just nailed or pegged to the bottom. Short
iron reinforcing straps are found on some but not on others.
As to why the construction of the all important bottom varies... well,
there was a balance between cost and security even back then. Much the
same factors apply to packaging today. The packaging is only intended
to convey the goods to the destination. If it is reusable after that,
that's a bonus for the end-user.
PS: Who has never been in either packaging design or shipping, but has
spent an un-natural amount of time trotting between the departments,
factories and warehouses to trouble-shoot other peoples' 'great
cost-saving ideas.' <;)
--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, "peg11thgen" <peg11thgen@...> wrote:
> Regarding these BAR plans-
> I asked my father-in-law, a cabinet-maker, to take a look, and his
> question is this: Why did they go to the trouble to rabbet the side
> panels, and then just nail the bottom on instead of setting it in? The
> cargo was pretty heavy to take a chance like that. He thinks they must
> have been smarter than that.
> Does anyone know whether these plans are copying an original chest?
> Any other comments on that detail?
> --- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, you wrote:
> > >It is an -excellent-
> > >article by Ed Schweinfurth on how to re-create the simple liquor
> > >shipping chest of the era.
> > Fortunately we have the Internet Archive..
> > Comes up just fine..
> > Tony
- Nails from Fort Stanwix.
I just wanted to follow up with a worthwhile resource for this topic.
âCasemates and Cannonballsâ has a section about nails recovered during
the archaeological investigations at Fort Stanwix.
âRose-head (fig 31a) Rose-head nails appear in all sizes but not all
specimens of this type have rounded heads; many were flat with only
short slopes near the edges.â p. 51.
[In other words - the term ârose-headâ is used in a sense similar to
Band-Aid, Coke or Kleenex, rather than precisely.]
Fig. 31 indeed shows a range of spikes and nails. Only a few examples
of the approximately 24,600 nails found are illustrated, of course.
A few examples are nails in the range of 1-5 / 8â to 2-1 / 8â These
tend to have tapered square shanks ending in a sharp point, and
flattened or just slightly domed heads.
There are some larger nails in the range of 4-1 / 4â to 4-1 / 2â, one
of which has something resembling a ârose-head'.
Several large spikes are illustrated also, 6 to 8â in length, as well
as a range of nails and staples for specialized applications.
See pages p. 51-55 for text, illustrations and considerable
It seems that the size range of 1-5 / 8â to 2-1 / 8â would be suitable
for light carpentry work, such as chests.
âCasemates and Cannonballsâ by the way is a very good and in my
opinion, very useful resource. Lots of findngs on personal items,
utensils, tools, ceramics and glass found at the fort.
Hanson, Lee, and Hsu, Dick Ping; âCasemates and Cannonballs,
Archaeological Investigations at Fort Stanwix National Park.â Inited
States Department of the Interior, National Park Service, USGPO,
Washington DC 1975.