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  • John Burns
    I think HGH certainly won´t hurt your libido and might increase it. If your doctor says you are low in testosterone, THAT is a biggie! Don´t be afraid of
    Message 1 of 9 , Dec 28, 2007
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      I think HGH certainly won´t hurt your libido and might increase
      it. If your doctor says you are low in testosterone, THAT is a
      biggie! Don´t be afraid of using Androgel, it is easy and works.

      And don´t forget stimulating things: most men fire up the juices
      with pornography, or whatever keeps you stimulated. ´If you don´t
      use it, you´ll loose it´ is my mantra.

      I am 62 and do like to take libido enhancers like Cialis, which
      is great for me. I don´t like Viagra much as it seems so
      harsh.....and is not for those with any heart conditions, but a
      half a pill at performance time can work miracles.

      I also love DHEA......and find exercise is a great stimulant.

      Good luck! I think Androgel and HGH will turn things around.

      John D. Burns


      Ellis: [Hello John... It is good to hear from you.

      Yes, I agree that Androgel and HGH both should help, but they
      might not if there is something else like a very bad medicine
      taking libido AWAY.

      And pornography is not bad, but there is nothing like a real
      live partner with you, and I suppose nothing as frustrating as
      not being able to perform when your mind says you want to, but
      your body says "no"...

      Let's see what Brandon answers. If he is taking a bad medicine,
      the first step for him will be to stop taking the bad medicine...
      the second step would be not to ever listen again to the doctor
      who prescribed the bad medicine, if such is the case...

      Happy New Year. - Ellis]






      Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:37:03 -0800
      Subject: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how can HGH help me?

      I'm a real newbie to this kind of thing. I've recently lost my
      interest in sex. My doctor says to try Androgel. I'm 48 years
      old, & other than a problem with cholesterol, am in good overall
      health.

      I work out & get firm, however, I don't seem to be able to increase
      muscle mass or strength.

      How can HGH help me? What's the cost? How often would I have to
      use it?

      I had my testosterone level checked & it came back on the low end
      of 'normal.' Please give me a clue.

      Thanks

      Brandon



      Ellis: [Hello Brandon. This is very bad... There has to be a
      REASON why you have lost your interest in sex, since by writing
      that you want HGH to help you, you mean that you have not really
      lost interest in sex, but something is taking away your libido.

      Before I answer about growth hormone or testosterone... I
      would like to know if you have been taking any medicines,
      perhaps to make your hair grow, or for prostate problems,
      or for muscle building etc. Some medicines are horrendous for
      your sexual libido, among them tamoxifen, and finisteride...

      Also, have you been taking Decadurabolin? That's another
      libido killer.

      Yes, growth hormone and testosterone probably would be good
      to regain libido, but not if you are taking other medicines
      that kill libido.

      The "low end of normal" is terrible... it is "normal" for a
      man age 48 not to have the sex drive he had when he was 25.
      You would like testosterone at "the high end of normal"...

      So... first, let me know if you are taking other medicines, and
      if you are, stop taking them unless your life depends on them,
      and let me know what they are.

      - Ellis
    • AL Villalobos
      Hi Ellis, I love this quote: So if I can know it, why doesn t the doctor know it? I don t know. But if you want to stay healthy, you have to be smarter than
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 1, 2008
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        Hi Ellis,

        I love this quote:

        " So if I can know it, why doesn't the doctor know it? I don't
        know. But if you want to stay healthy, you have to be smarter
        than your doctors. - Ellis"

        Truer words were never spoken!

        I think most normal people with access to the internet and a few hours of work can know as much about their particular condition and how it will work for them as any doctor they are likely to meet.  No medical professional will ever care as much about you as YOU will!  Everyone owes it to themselves to  become your own doctor first, and THEN consult with an MD, to direct your own treatment.

        And also I second your comments about Finasteride and loss of libido-- I tied it for a year and  noticed a distinct decline.  When I stopped, MAN!  I felt like I was 15 again for a month or two until things leveled back out.  Still high now, but at a more "manageable" level (a good problem to have! :-))

        Regards All,

        AL



        ----- Original Message ----
        From: AL Villalobos <alvillalobos@...>
        To: Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:29:02 AM
        Subject: Re: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how can HGH help me?

        Hi Ellis and Brandon,

        I went through this whole process a few years back and now have
        addressed both the CAUSE and Symptoms you describe-

        YES- supplemental T will definitely get your libido back-- but like
        Ellis commented, you also have to address WHY your T was "low normal'
        to begin with-- This is where I think your doctor will fail you.

        Generally, they are not interested in any kind of investigation if
        they can fix your symptom and send you on your way.

        Some possible root causes- you can have more than one of these at
        the same time:

        Not enough fat in your diet-

        and the flip side of that- too much carbs

        Not enough INTENSE exercise - sprints and max effort lifts will
        increase your T and HGH levels

        Not enough rest between intense exercise bouts-- overtraining will
        decrease your T and HGH levels

        Being overweight will also decrease your T level

        One last thing: NEVER accept from a doctor a statement like "your
        test was low normal" That means NOTHING to you-- every test has a
        numerical value - either write it down or request a photocopy of the
        actual lab report -- If they refuse get a different doctor.

        You have to know what the numbers are or you will never get anywhere
        in improving yourself to the level YOU want to be at.

        I started out like you with supplemental T seven years ago, and by
        doing everything I described above, I moved my T level from a "low
        normal" 350 to a "high normal" 800-1000. I now take only 1/4 the T
        dose I did when I started, because my true "normal" level FOR ME
        was about 600, but I discovered that I felt MUCH better in the
        800-1000 range.

        No normal doctor would say a 600 T value needs any kind of treatment.
        I am the boss of my own body and I say what's good for me or not!

        Please email me if you need more info,OK?

        regards All,

        AL

        [Bravo, AL! I am amazed and disappointed at how OBEDIENT many
        people are of their doctors, and I am amazed how often I don't
        like what my doctors say or tell me to do. I was even told to
        drink Finisteride to make hair grow, after I got my eyebrow
        transplant a few months ago...

        If I had not known what finisteride is, and what finisteride does
        to male libido, I might have taken it obediently, and then I might
        be wondering why I lost libido... if I would have consulted with
        the doctor that told me to drink libido, he might have told me
        that it is "normal" for an old man (age 62) to lose libido.

        Today, with the internet, there is no medicine that I am ever
        prescribed that I don't look up, and sure enough, if you look
        up finisteride, one of the side effects is loss of libido...

        (But since I take growth hormone, I don't get sick, so I usually
        don't have to take any medicines... )

        So if I can know it, why doesn't the doctor know it? I don't
        know. But if you want to stay healthy, you have to be smarter
        than your doctors. - Ellis

        ----- Original Message ----
        From: glorydaz
        To: rejuvenation@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:37:03 AM
        Subject: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how can HGH help me?

        I'm a real newbie to this kind of thing. I've recently lost my
        interest in sex. My doctor says to try Androgel. I'm 48 years
        old, & other than a problem with cholesterol, am in good overall
        health.

        I work out & get firm, however, I don't seem to be able to increase
        muscle mass or strength.

        How can HGH help me? What's the cost? How often would I have to
        use it?

        I had my testosterone level checked & it came back on the low end
        of 'normal.' Please give me a clue.

        Thanks

        Brandon

        Ellis: [Hello Brandon. This is very bad... There has to be a
        REASON why you have lost your interest in sex, since by writing
        that you want HGH to help you, you mean that you have not really
        lost interest in sex, but something is taking away your libido.

        Before I answer about growth hormone or testosterone. .. I
        would like to know if you have been taking any medicines,
        perhaps to make your hair grow, or for prostate problems,
        or for muscle building etc. Some medicines are horrendous for
        your sexual libido, among them tamoxifen, and finisteride. ..

        Also, have you been taking Decadurabolin? That's another
        libido killer.

        Yes, growth hormone and testosterone probably would be good
        to regain libido, but not if you are taking other medicines
        that kill libido.

        The "low end of normal" is terrible... it is "normal" for a
        man age 48 not to have the sex drive he had when he was 25.
        You would like testosterone at "the high end of normal"...

        So... first, let me know if you are taking other medicines, and
        if you are, stop taking them unless your life depends on them,
        and let me know what they are.

        - Ellis




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      • David Heinitz
        I had an issue with low libido also. My low libido and also erectile dysfunction occured after taking a cholesterol lowering statin for 1 year. My testosterone
        Message 3 of 9 , Jan 1, 2008
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          I had an issue with low libido also.

          My low libido and also erectile dysfunction occured after
          taking a cholesterol lowering statin for 1 year. My
          testosterone level was low (120, test done by Quest).

          I subsequently found out that cholesterol is a chemical building
          block that is used to make many necessary substances that my
          body needs. One of those substances is testosterone.

          In my mind, I see cholesterol lowering medication = testosterone
          lowering medication. Although, the drug manufacturers do not admit
          in their literature that statins cause any changes to the substances
          that our body creates out of cholesterol, common sense says those
          substances will decrease when substances used to make them are
          decreased i.e., cholesterol.

          Androlgel is a good assist towards restoring the libido when
          testosterone levels are low.

          Cialis and Viagra help with Erectile Dysfunction.

          However, in my case I also required a melatonin supplement. I use
          the 3mg supplement of a pharmecutical grade melatonin. No doctor
          would recommend the melatonin. I discovered that on my own. I also
          experienced a return of nocturnal erections after taking the
          melatonin supplement.

          I have not seen that in any literature and would like to know if
          any other males have seen that response in their lives to a melatonin
          supplementation?

          Ellis: [I agree with you... if it lowers cholesterol, it probably
          also affects testosterone and sexual ability. Thanks for writing,
          this is really important. - Ellis]



          John Burns wrote:

          I think HGH certainly won´t hurt your libido and might increase
          it. If your doctor says you are low in testosterone, THAT is a
          biggie! Don´t be afraid of using Androgel, it is easy and works.

          And don´t forget stimulating things: most men fire up the juices
          with pornography, or whatever keeps you stimulated. "If you don´t
          use it, you´ll loose it" is my mantra.

          I am 62 and do like to take libido enhancers like Cialis, which
          is great for me. I don´t like Viagra much as it seems so
          harsh.....and is not for those with any heart conditions, but a
          half a pill at performance time can work miracles.

          I also love DHEA......and find exercise is a great stimulant.

          Good luck! I think Androgel and HGH will turn things around.

          John D. Burns


          Ellis: [Hello John... It is good to hear from you.

          Yes, I agree that Androgel and HGH both should help, but they
          might not if there is something else like a very bad medicine
          taking libido AWAY.

          And pornography is not bad, but there is nothing like a real
          live partner with you, and I suppose nothing as frustrating as
          not being able to perform when your mind says you want to, but
          your body says "no"...

          Let's see what Brandon answers. If he is taking a bad medicine,
          the first step for him will be to stop taking the bad medicine...
          the second step would be not to ever listen again to the doctor
          who prescribed the bad medicine, if such is the case...

          Happy New Year. - Ellis]

          Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:37:03 -0800
          Subject: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how can HGH help me?

          I'm a real newbie to this kind of thing. I've recently lost my
          interest in sex. My doctor says to try Androgel. I'm 48 years
          old, & other than a problem with cholesterol, am in good overall
          health.

          I work out & get firm, however, I don't seem to be able to increase
          muscle mass or strength.

          How can HGH help me? What's the cost? How often would I have to
          use it?

          I had my testosterone level checked & it came back on the low end
          of 'normal.' Please give me a clue.

          Thanks

          Brandon

          Ellis: [Hello Brandon. This is very bad... There has to be a
          REASON why you have lost your interest in sex, since by writing
          that you want HGH to help you, you mean that you have not really
          lost interest in sex, but something is taking away your libido.

          Before I answer about growth hormone or testosterone... I
          would like to know if you have been taking any medicines,
          perhaps to make your hair grow, or for prostate problems,
          or for muscle building etc. Some medicines are horrendous for
          your sexual libido, among them tamoxifen, and finisteride...

          Also, have you been taking Decadurabolin? That's another
          libido killer.

          Yes, growth hormone and testosterone probably would be good
          to regain libido, but not if you are taking other medicines
          that kill libido.

          The "low end of normal" is terrible... it is "normal" for a
          man age 48 not to have the sex drive he had when he was 25.
          You would like testosterone at "the high end of normal"...

          So... first, let me know if you are taking other medicines, and
          if you are, stop taking them unless your life depends on them,
          and let me know what they are.

          - Ellis
        • edward
          -- Hello Ellis and Al and Group This thread caused me to think about my own Testosterone (T) program which I think needs some modification. Here s the
          Message 4 of 9 , Jan 3, 2008
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            Hello Ellis and Al and Group

            This thread caused me to think about my own Testosterone (T) program
            which I think needs some modification. Here's the picture. Male age
            57, and have been on T-replacement for 12 months or so. My T reading
            to start was 237. I started with T creme made by a compounding
            pharmacy (which is out of business now..legal peroblems in Florida)
            and my readings went as high as 408. I have since for last six months
            been on MD prescribed Androgel 5 grams/day transdermal. My T level is
            260 (total) now...but free Testosterone is only 5.94.

            I have been researching aromatase as a cause of low T ie T being
            converted to Estrogen and thought maybe 1 mg of Arimindix might help.
            However my MD won't prescribe because my estradiol level was 27 last
            test and he thinks it is a cancer only drug for women.

            My sex drive is fine.

            Also I've been on HGH for 18 months. Started at IGF-1 of 87 and went
            to 470 after about six months. My MD suggested I cut dose back to 5-6
            IU per week which I did and IGF-1 is now 226. I'm starting back on
            9-10 IU per week as I felt better at the higher dose.

            Any suggestions or ideas from the group would be appreciated.

            Thanks

            Ed

            Ellis: [Question: Does your doctor use HGH himself? I am curious
            to know why he told you to cut back because you were at 470...

            I would not have suggested that you should lower your dose if your
            IGF-1 comes out 470... I would have said it is probably close to
            an ideal dose. I suppose it gave you very good RESULTS... So now
            you increased your dose, how do you feel compared with the lower
            dose?

            -Ellis]


            - In Rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com, AL Villalobos <alvillalobos@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hi Ellis and Brandon,
            >
            > I went through this whole process a few years back and now have
            > addressed both the CAUSE and Symptoms you describe-
            >
            > YES- supplemental T will definitely get your libido back-- but like
            > Ellis commented, you also have to address WHY your T was "low normal'
            > to begin with-- This is where I think your doctor will fail you.
            >
            > Generally, they are not interested in any kind of investigation if
            > they can fix your symptom and send you on your way.
            >
            > Some possible root causes- you can have more than one of these at
            > the same time:
            >
            > Not enough fat in your diet-
            >
            > and the flip side of that- too much carbs
            >
            > Not enough INTENSE exercise - sprints and max effort lifts will
            > increase your T and HGH levels
            >
            > Not enough rest between intense exercise bouts-- overtraining will
            > decrease your T and HGH levels
            >
            > Being overweight will also decrease your T level
            >
            > One last thing: NEVER accept from a doctor a statement like "your
            > test was low normal" That means NOTHING to you-- every test has a
            > numerical value - either write it down or request a photocopy of the
            > actual lab report -- If they refuse get a different doctor.
            >
            > You have to know what the numbers are or you will never get anywhere
            > in improving yourself to the level YOU want to be at.
            >
            > I started out like you with supplemental T seven years ago, and by
            > doing everything I described above, I moved my T level from a "low
            > normal" 350 to a "high normal" 800-1000. I now take only 1/4 the T
            > dose I did when I started, because my true "normal" level FOR ME
            > was about 600, but I discovered that I felt MUCH better in the
            > 800-1000 range.
            >
            > No normal doctor would say a 600 T value needs any kind of treatment.
            > I am the boss of my own body and I say what's good for me or not!
            >
            > Please email me if you need more info,OK?
            >
            > regards All,
            >
            > AL
            >
            >
            > [Bravo, AL! I am amazed and disappointed at how OBEDIENT many
            > people are of their doctors, and I am amazed how often I don't
            > like what my doctors say or tell me to do. I was even told to
            > drink Finisteride to make hair grow, after I got my eyebrow
            > transplant a few months ago...
            >
            > If I had not known what finisteride is, and what finisteride does
            > to male libido, I might have taken it obediently, and then I might
            > be wondering why I lost libido... if I would have consulted with
            > the doctor that told me to drink libido, he might have told me
            > that it is "normal" for an old man (age 62) to lose libido.
            >
            > Today, with the internet, there is no medicine that I am ever
            > prescribed that I don't look up, and sure enough, if you look
            > up finisteride, one of the side effects is loss of libido...
            >
            > (But since I take growth hormone, I don't get sick, so I usually
            > don't have to take any medicines...)
            >
            > So if I can know it, why doesn't the doctor know it? I don't
            > know. But if you want to stay healthy, you have to be smarter
            > than your doctors. - Ellis
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message ----
            > From: glorydaz
            > To: rejuvenation@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:37:03 AM
            > Subject: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how can HGH help me?
            >
            >
            >
            > I'm a real newbie to this kind of thing. I've recently lost my
            > interest in sex. My doctor says to try Androgel. I'm 48 years
            > old, & other than a problem with cholesterol, am in good overall
            > health.
            >
            > I work out & get firm, however, I don't seem to be able to increase
            > muscle mass or strength.
            >
            > How can HGH help me? What's the cost? How often would I have to
            > use it?
            >
            > I had my testosterone level checked & it came back on the low end
            > of 'normal.' Please give me a clue.
            >
            > Thanks
            >
            > Brandon
            >
            >
            >
            > Ellis: [Hello Brandon. This is very bad... There has to be a
            > REASON why you have lost your interest in sex, since by writing
            > that you want HGH to help you, you mean that you have not really
            > lost interest in sex, but something is taking away your libido.
            >
            > Before I answer about growth hormone or testosterone. .. I
            > would like to know if you have been taking any medicines,
            > perhaps to make your hair grow, or for prostate problems,
            > or for muscle building etc. Some medicines are horrendous for
            > your sexual libido, among them tamoxifen, and finisteride. ..
            >
            > Also, have you been taking Decadurabolin? That's another
            > libido killer.
            >
            > Yes, growth hormone and testosterone probably would be good
            > to regain libido, but not if you are taking other medicines
            > that kill libido.
            >
            > The "low end of normal" is terrible... it is "normal" for a
            > man age 48 not to have the sex drive he had when he was 25.
            > You would like testosterone at "the high end of normal"...
            >
            > So... first, let me know if you are taking other medicines, and
            > if you are, stop taking them unless your life depends on them,
            > and let me know what they are.
            >
            > - Ellis
            >
          • FRANK
            I can relate to most all the comments made on this post. I have never had a problem with erections, however sometime the desire wasn t as strong as it needed
            Message 5 of 9 , Jan 23, 2008
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              I can relate to most all the comments made on this
              post. I have never had a problem with erections,
              however sometime the desire wasn't as strong as it
              needed to be. Androgel is a good start (I started
              there) but it is way to expensive. There are good
              compounding pharmacies that sell the same thing for
              about 75% less and works as well if not better (I
              think how you apply it makes a difference)

              My testosterone count was around 300. The doctors
              like to tell you about the scale of 300-1000 and then
              base your number on your age. The hell with the
              doctors and their age related numbers. Every man
              from 25 to 100 should strive to have a count of at
              least 450, and 700 is not too high.

              IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON. Age should not be a factor.

              I then started HGH, not only did this help my
              testosterone level, but it helped everything about me.

              For me to get a good results from HGH took me about 6
              months (I have stated this before in this group). Mainly
              it simply made me feel good about living and looking
              forward to the next day.

              It didn't make me jump higher, or run faster, or sing
              better. It just made me feel good about myself.

              This is not to say there are ocassional set backs (or
              could be mild side effects). I have had to start
              excerising more to keep my blood sugar down to a
              respectable level and I take metformin daily.

              [I think you are a very good candidate for insulin.
              See my pages:

              http://www.rajeun.net/usinginsulin.html

              http://www.rajeun.net/lantus.html

              http://www.rajeun.net/assess.html

              http://www.rajeun.net/gtt.html

              - Ellis]


              Sometimes I even have to stop taking HGH for a week or
              two to relieve minor pains in my fingers.

              I have become a believer in Dr Bernsteins' book. There is
              nothing wrong with enjoying a decent quality of life as
              we get older. I would much rather feel good for the next
              how many years I live, than wake up everyday and dread
              living.

              Ellis: [That's like saying you would rather be rich
              and handsome than poor and ugly... And of course, you
              are right... What is strange is that so many doctors are
              opposed to us wanting to use hormones which we say make us
              feel good for the next how many years we live... - Ellis]

              The testosterone and HGH I'm taking give me that opportunity.
              Testosterone supplments for men is like hormones for women
              ( and they do make a great difference ). The things we (you
              and I) read about in the papers about baseball players are
              not the same things you and I are talking about when it come
              to a respectable way of life for us.

              Frank

              Ellis: [Baseball players are also people... they also want
              to feel healthy. There is no reason in the world why baseball
              players should be forced to allow their body to deteriorate so
              that Babe Ruth's records are not broken, or that they should
              heal "normally" if they can HEAL quickly, if there is a way to
              heal quickly... and there is. That is not "cheating"...
              to me, that is caring about their body.

              But they are in the spotlight, and they are being forced to
              say that they don't like to take HGH, they don't get any benefit,
              it doesn't work for baseball players... I am sure that is not
              true. HGH works the same on Baseball players as on anybody
              else. - Ellis]










              --- David Heinitz <d8heinit@...> wrote:

              > I had an issue with low libido also.
              >
              > My low libido and also erectile dysfunction occured
              > after
              > taking a cholesterol lowering statin for 1 year. My
              > testosterone level was low (120, test done by
              > Quest).
              >
              > I subsequently found out that cholesterol is a
              > chemical building
              > block that is used to make many necessary substances
              > that my
              > body needs. One of those substances is testosterone.
              >
              >
              > In my mind, I see cholesterol lowering medication =
              > testosterone
              > lowering medication. Although, the drug
              > manufacturers do not admit
              > in their literature that statins cause any changes
              > to the substances
              > that our body creates out of cholesterol, common
              > sense says those
              > substances will decrease when substances used to
              > make them are
              > decreased i.e., cholesterol.
              >
              > Androlgel is a good assist towards restoring the
              > libido when
              > testosterone levels are low.
              >
              > Cialis and Viagra help with Erectile Dysfunction.
              >
              > However, in my case I also required a melatonin
              > supplement. I use
              > the 3mg supplement of a pharmecutical grade
              > melatonin. No doctor
              > would recommend the melatonin. I discovered that on
              > my own. I also
              > experienced a return of nocturnal erections after
              > taking the
              > melatonin supplement.
              >
              > I have not seen that in any literature and would
              > like to know if
              > any other males have seen that response in their
              > lives to a melatonin
              > supplementation?
              >
              > Ellis: [I agree with you... if it lowers
              > cholesterol, it probably
              > also affects testosterone and sexual ability. Thanks
              > for writing,
              > this is really important. - Ellis]
              >
              >
              >
              > John Burns wrote:
              >
              > I think HGH certainly won´t hurt your libido and
              > might increase
              > it. If your doctor says you are low in testosterone,
              > THAT is a
              > biggie! Don´t be afraid of using Androgel, it is
              > easy and works.
              >
              > And don´t forget stimulating things: most men fire
              > up the juices
              > with pornography, or whatever keeps you stimulated.
              > "If you don´t
              > use it, you´ll loose it" is my mantra.
              >
              > I am 62 and do like to take libido enhancers like
              > Cialis, which
              > is great for me. I don´t like Viagra much as it
              > seems so
              > harsh.....and is not for those with any heart
              > conditions, but a
              > half a pill at performance time can work miracles.
              >
              > I also love DHEA......and find exercise is a great
              > stimulant.
              >
              > Good luck! I think Androgel and HGH will turn things
              > around.
              >
              > John D. Burns
              >
              >
              > Ellis: [Hello John... It is good to hear from you.
              >
              > Yes, I agree that Androgel and HGH both should help,
              > but they
              > might not if there is something else like a very bad
              > medicine
              > taking libido AWAY.
              >
              > And pornography is not bad, but there is nothing
              > like a real
              > live partner with you, and I suppose nothing as
              > frustrating as
              > not being able to perform when your mind says you
              > want to, but
              > your body says "no"...
              >
              > Let's see what Brandon answers. If he is taking a
              > bad medicine,
              > the first step for him will be to stop taking the
              > bad medicine...
              > the second step would be not to ever listen again to
              > the doctor
              > who prescribed the bad medicine, if such is the
              > case...
              >
              > Happy New Year. - Ellis]
              >
              > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:37:03 -0800
              > Subject: [Rejuvenation] Lost interest in sex... how
              > can HGH help me?
              >
              > I'm a real newbie to this kind of thing. I've
              > recently lost my
              > interest in sex. My doctor says to try Androgel. I'm
              > 48 years
              > old, & other than a problem with cholesterol, am in
              > good overall
              > health.
              >
              > I work out & get firm, however, I don't seem to be
              > able to increase
              > muscle mass or strength.
              >
              > How can HGH help me? What's the cost? How often
              > would I have to
              > use it?
              >
              > I had my testosterone level checked & it came back
              > on the low end
              > of 'normal.' Please give me a clue.
              >
              > Thanks
              >
              > Brandon
              >
              > Ellis: [Hello Brandon. This is very bad... There has
              > to be a
              > REASON why you have lost your interest in sex, since
              > by writing
              > that you want HGH to help you, you mean that you
              > have not really
              > lost interest in sex, but something is taking away
              > your libido.
              >
              > Before I answer about growth hormone or
              > testosterone... I
              > would like to know if you have been taking any
              > medicines,
              > perhaps to make your hair grow, or for prostate
              > problems,
              > or for muscle building etc. Some medicines are
              > horrendous for
              > your sexual libido, among them tamoxifen, and
              > finisteride...
              >
              > Also, have you been taking Decadurabolin? That's
              > another
              > libido killer.
              >
              > Yes, growth hormone and testosterone probably would
              > be good
              > to regain libido, but not if you are taking other
              > medicines
              > that kill libido.
              >
              > The "low end of normal" is terrible... it is
              > "normal" for a
              > man age 48 not to have the sex drive he had when he
              > was 25.
              > You would like testosterone at "the high end of
              > normal"...
              >
              > So... first, let me know if you are taking other
              > medicines, and
              > if you are, stop taking them unless your life
              > depends on them,
              > and let me know what they are.
              >
              > - Ellis
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >



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