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Re: [RedHotJazz] Chicago South Side 1927?

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  • David Weiner
    There s a great CD by Randy Sandke titled REDISCOVERED LOUIS & BIX, featuring songs written by but unissued/unrecorded by both artists, in the style of the
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      There's a great CD by Randy Sandke titled REDISCOVERED LOUIS & BIX,
      featuring songs written by but unissued/unrecorded by both artists, in the
      style of the bands which would have played them had they done so! Several
      of the Louis selections are played in Creole Band style.

      >http://www.amazon.com/Rediscovered-Louis-Bix-Randy-Sandke/dp/B000A210WA/re
      >f=tmm_acd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1354122433&sr=8-2

      Dave Weiner


      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com] On
      >Behalf Of Mordechai Litzman
      >Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:55 AM
      >To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Chicago South Side 1927?
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      >Thanks for your thoughts. What I find encouraging is that there are bands
      >who try to play in the less known styles of Jimmy Bertrand and Lovie
      >Austin as examples.
      >
      >Personally, the 1923 sides of King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band are among my
      >absolute favorites, but there are only around 37 recordings or so. For me
      >it is a treat to hear a band playing tunes in the style of the Creole
      >Band that they never recorded or issued. There are very few bands who
      >truly absorbed the style of the Creole Band - seems that it requires
      >years of playing together to get it right.
      >
      >Right now two examples come to mind: The Dutch band Miss Lulu playing
      >Ragging the Scale, and the German Barrelhouse Jazz Band playing Panama.
      >(There is a Stomp Off CD with recordings of unissued Creole Band sides by
      >Chris Tyle's Silver Leaf Jazz Band but it is more interesting because of
      >the selections than the performance. The Danish Peruna Jazz Band and the
      >British Frog Island Jazz Band do a good job but mainly copy Oliver
      >recordings.)
      >
      >
      >I would appreciate it if anybody could point me to true Creole Band style
      >recordings of tunes that were not recorded by them.
      >
      >
      >BTW, legend has it that the 50 hot choruses supposedly were recorded by
      >Louis on piano rolls and then transcribed.
      >
      >
      >________________________________
      > From: ALAN BOND <alan_bond@...>
      >To: "RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com" <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
      >Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:21 AM
      >Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Chicago South Side 1927?
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      >
      >Not too close though.Unlike the 'pop' copyists, most of the jazzers tend
      >to play 'in the style of' rather than trying to be identical. The Brian
      >White/Alan GrestyRagtimers are a typical example of how the jazzers do it
      >as they don't slavishly copy the MuggsySpanier band and, in fact, play
      >many numbers which were never associated with them. I have most of Bent
      >Persson's 'Fifty Hot Choruses for Trumpet', originally penned by Louis
      >but reputedly never recorded by the Great Man. Bent incorporated these
      >into a selection of numbers which he recorded between 1976 and 1985. With
      >a few exceptions I am not a fan of copyists in jazz as it devalues the
      >music and the talent of the musicians, the vast majority of whom are far
      >more skilled than anyone in the world of 'pop'. I expect Dippermouth and
      >High Society to follow the original patterns set by Joe Oliver and
      >Alphonse Picou but even then, many bands set their own style and manage
      >to produce something original.
      >Jazz is a music of the moment and it should always sound as fresh as the
      >day it was recorded. If anyone doubts that this is so, you only have to
      >look around your local junk shop where you will find 'pop' records by the
      >hundred but very few jazz records. Where I live they are always snapped
      >up PDQ. Jazz is not a 'throwaway' music unlike 'pop', which a very good
      >friend of mine once described as 'consumer noise', a very apt description
      >in my book.
      >TTFN - 007
      >
      >________________________________
      >From: Mordechai Litzman <folke613@...>
      >To: "RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com" <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
      >Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012, 5:15
      >Subject: [RedHotJazz] Chicago South Side 1927?
      >
      >Well, pretty close to the real thing:
      >
      >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC3laQIs8qU Bent Persson and
      >friends at Whitley Bay 2012
      >
      >Here is the original:
      >
      >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnSN1bAqlE (The tune is I am going
      >hunting)
      >
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