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  • lastofthebarons
    I think you may well have a long outdated version as Steve Albin s email address is steve@steve-albin.com or steveja@jazzdiscography.com they are both working
    Message 1 of 20 , Sep 24, 2012
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      I think you may well have a long outdated version as Steve Albin's email address is steve@... or steveja@... they are both working OK, as I have just emailed Steve and he has replied.

      What are you trying to run Brian on? If you are on a Mac, perhaps you downloaded the Windows version or vice versa. I've done it myself with programmes.

      Cheers,

      Marc



      On 24 Sep 2012, at 19:52, Niku <xyzagain@...> wrote:

      >
      >
      > --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, lastofthebarons <lastofthebarons@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Try The Jazz Discography:-
      > >
      > > https://www.lordisco.com
      > >
      > > Great for anyone researching dates etc. Then there is
      > >
      > > http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Brian/index.php
      > >
      > > A Jazz Discography programme that has an excellent starter database that give a large selection of songs and their writers.
      > >
      > > They both come with a personal recommendation.
      > >
      > > You can also try ellingtonia.com which has a list of all the titles together with writers that Duke recorded.
      > >
      > --------
      > Thanks for the tips. It looks like I'm going to have to choose the first one, because I can't get my "Brian" download to work. "Brian" appears in my menu bar, and the dock. There is also An Icon for "Brian Discography Software" on my desktop, but I can't do anything with any of them. I also wrote to their suggested contact:
      > ( Cheers,If you have any questions regarding Brian, please feel free to email me at steve@....), but my mail screen says that it's an invalid E-mail address). To bad, because I have a lot of respect for Brian Rust. Well, your first choice looks okay. I
      > am just worried about their definition of "jazz". I may be wrong. but it seems to me as if the term covered a much broader spectrum of music in the earlier days of jazz than today. In other words, when "jazz" was actually popular, the term included performers and performers that today are scorned as "not jazz". Correct me if I'm wrong.
      >
      > Steve Albin
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On 24 Sep 2012, at 17:46, Niku <xyzagain@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > I have found that this is definitely job I don't care for. It's time-consuming and, sometimes, unrewarding. I need to do it more efficiently. What I'm looking for is a site or book(s) that will help me find the basic information about a recording: Performer(s), record company and number of record, publication date, music and lyric writers; that's about it. I am now routinely using Red Hot Archives, and I have ordered the book, "Moanin' Low" by Ross Laird. I realize that I can probably obtain everything I need by coming here, and I will, but I'm sure I could cut such visits to minimum, and save time, by using some good reference sites/books. Oh, yes, I'm mostly interested in music of the 20s and 30s.
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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    • Patrice Champarou
      ... De : lastofthebarons Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 07:21 À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research ... I downloaded the
      Message 2 of 20 , Sep 24, 2012
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        De : lastofthebarons
        Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 07:21
        À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
        Objet : Re: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research

        > What are you trying to run Brian on? If you are on a Mac, perhaps you
        > downloaded the Windows version or vice versa. I've done it myself with
        > programmes.

        I downloaded the Windows version to test it on a Windows system, and all it
        provided was a do-nothing interface (not allowing to type or click anything,
        in spite of the blinking cursor). Any change in properties (step-by-step
        compability modes, as far back as Win95), or lauching the prog as an admin,
        revealed unsuccessful - only showing something less scrambled, but still
        completely inactive.

        Patrice
      • Nigel Burlinson
        Well, I ve used the Library of Congress site for fifteen years and found it most useful for anything before the mid 1960 s - 78rpm especially ASCAP is another
        Message 3 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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          Well, I've used the Library of Congress site for fifteen years and found it most useful for
          anything before the mid 1960's - 78rpm especially

          ASCAP is another matter; they updated?? the way the site works early this year
          I'm still not sure it is an improvement on the old one, full of mistakes and double or even triple entries!!

          BMI is another good site but not much use for any songs written before 1940

          http://www.bmi.com/

          Don't forget

          http://www.78discography.com/

          and here is one I contribute to regularly:

          http://www.dbopm.com/

          Nigel Burlinson




          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Niku
          To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:19 AM
          Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research





          --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Nigel Burlinson" <burlinson@...> wrote:
          >
          > Have you tried the Library of Congress?
          >
          > http://lcweb5.loc.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/8138798/sonic.txt?action=-oyQT
          >
          > Very good for 78's!!
          >
          > Nigel Burlinson
          >
          >------
          Well, I'll try--again. I talked to them a few days ago, and the woman said that they had nothing ONLINE for anything before 1978. She also said that I could get someone at the Library to search for such files for a fee of $150 per hour with a two hour minimum. Now you come along and recommend it. Well, I just went back ONLINE, and it seems to me that there are search possibilities ONLINE, but you just have to know how to navigate their site. I'll go back tomorrow when I'm fresher. Thanks for the tip.I would never have gone back there without it. By the way, what do you think of the ASCAP site? That's another site I never planned on returning to, but maybe it's just another site that's only as good as your searching abilities.





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        • lastofthebarons
          If you re on Windows, Patrice, I can t help you. I got too frustrated with it as it never seemed to do what I wanted, so I ve been running Mac OS for the last
          Message 4 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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            If you're on Windows, Patrice, I can't help you. I got too frustrated with it as it never seemed to do what I wanted, so I've been running Mac OS for the last 15 years, though I understand that the latest Windows OS is less frustrating than it used to be. My daughter swears by Linux by the way. Horses for courses.

            Brian is well worth persevering with and I would suggest you try Steve Albin again. He is very helpful.

            Cheers,

            Marc

            On 25 Sep 2012, at 07:21, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:

            > -----Message d'origine-----
            > De : lastofthebarons
            > Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 07:21
            > � : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
            > Objet : Re: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research
            >
            > > What are you trying to run Brian on? If you are on a Mac, perhaps you
            > > downloaded the Windows version or vice versa. I've done it myself with
            > > programmes.
            >
            > I downloaded the Windows version to test it on a Windows system, and all it
            > provided was a do-nothing interface (not allowing to type or click anything,
            > in spite of the blinking cursor). Any change in properties (step-by-step
            > compability modes, as far back as Win95), or lauching the prog as an admin,
            > revealed unsuccessful - only showing something less scrambled, but still
            > completely inactive.
            >
            > Patrice
            >
            >



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          • lakehead_guy@tbaytel.net
            Checkout this website for jazz music http://archive.org/search.php?query=jazz%20AND%20collection%3Aaudio_music Ross myweb site is giantvinyl.gemm.com for jazz
            Message 5 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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              Checkout this website for jazz music

              http://archive.org/search.php?query=jazz%20AND%20collection%3Aaudio_music

              Ross
              myweb site is giantvinyl.gemm.com for jazz & other genre of vinyl

              From: Niku
              Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:19 PM
              To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research




              --- In mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com, "Nigel Burlinson" <burlinson@...> wrote:
              >
              > Have you tried the Library of Congress?
              >
              > http://lcweb5.loc.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/8138798/sonic.txt?action=-oyQT
              >
              > Very good for 78's!!
              >
              > Nigel Burlinson
              >
              >------
              Well, I'll try--again. I talked to them a few days ago, and the woman said that they had nothing ONLINE for anything before 1978. She also said that I could get someone at the Library to search for such files for a fee of $150 per hour with a two hour minimum. Now you come along and recommend it. Well, I just went back ONLINE, and it seems to me that there are search possibilities ONLINE, but you just have to know how to navigate their site. I'll go back tomorrow when I'm fresher. Thanks for the tip.I would never have gone back there without it. By the way, what do you think of the ASCAP site? That's another site I never planned on returning to, but maybe it's just another site that's only as good as your searching abilities.




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            • Patrice Champarou
              ... De : lakehead_guy@tbaytel.net Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 14:57 À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research ... Yes, of
              Message 6 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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                De : lakehead_guy@...
                Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 14:57
                À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research

                > Checkout this website for jazz music
                > http://archive.org/search.php?query=jazz%20AND%20collection%3Aaudio_music

                Yes, of course... maybe I also failed to recall
                http://victor.library.ucsb.edu/ which includes a lot of soundfiles -
                streamed after an agreement with the Library of Congress Jukebox
                http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/ (a better starting point than a canceled php
                request).

                > myweb site is giantvinyl.gemm.com for jazz & other genre of vinyl

                I suppose you mean http://www.gemm.com/catalog/GIANTVINYL/ ?

                For some reason, my second attempt to install Brian worked, Marc...
                I always end up forcing Windows to do what I want, problems only arise when
                it does the unexpected !! But I chose it intendedly, after sadly leaving
                the Amiga community, so as to start understanding everyone else's troubles
                ;).

                Patrice
              • ALAN BOND
                Never ever had a problem with Windows and I have run 95, 98, 2000 and XP with no bother at all. Linux is free so it makes sense if you don t wnt to give Bill
                Message 7 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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                  Never ever had a problem with Windows and I have run '95, '98, 2000 and XP with no bother at all. Linux is free so it makes sense if you don't wnt to give Bill Gates any more of your money.
                  TTFN - 007



                  ________________________________
                  From: lastofthebarons <lastofthebarons@...>
                  To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 12:15
                  Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research

                  If you're on Windows, Patrice, I can't help you. I got too frustrated with it as it never seemed to do what I wanted, so I've been running Mac OS for the last 15 years, though I understand that the latest Windows OS is less frustrating than it used to be. My daughter swears by Linux by the way. Horses for courses.

                  Brian is well worth persevering with and I would suggest you try Steve Albin again. He is very helpful.

                  Cheers,

                  Marc

                  On 25 Sep 2012, at 07:21, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:

                  > -----Message d'origine-----
                  > De : lastofthebarons
                  > Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 07:21
                  > À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                  > Objet : Re: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research
                  >
                  > > What are you trying to run Brian on? If you are on a Mac, perhaps you
                  > > downloaded the Windows version or vice versa. I've done it myself with
                  > > programmes.
                  >
                  > I downloaded the Windows version to test it on a Windows system, and all it
                  > provided was a do-nothing interface (not allowing to type or click anything,
                  > in spite of the blinking cursor). Any change in properties (step-by-step
                  > compability modes, as far back as Win95), or lauching the prog as an admin,
                  > revealed unsuccessful - only showing something less scrambled, but still
                  > completely inactive.
                  >
                  > Patrice
                  >
                  >



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                • lastofthebarons
                  Obviously a hair-shirter ;o) M ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  Message 8 of 20 , Sep 25, 2012
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                    Obviously a hair-shirter ;o)

                    M

                    On 25 Sep 2012, at 14:52, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:

                    > I always end up forcing Windows to do what I want, problems only arise when
                    > it does the unexpected !! But I chose it intendedly, after sadly leaving
                    > the Amiga community, so as to start understanding everyone else's troubles
                    > ;).



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                  • Niku
                    ... -- Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address. However, now that you remind me, I m going to remind him to correct that
                    Message 9 of 20 , Sep 26, 2012
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                      --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, lastofthebarons <lastofthebarons@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > I think you may well have a long outdated version as Steve Albin's email address is steve@... or steveja@... they are both working OK, as I have just emailed Steve and he has replied.

                      > Cheers,
                      >
                      > Marc
                      >
                      --
                      Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address. However, now that you remind me, I'm going to remind him to correct that out-of-date address. Now, I'm setting-up the "Brian" program. It's not easy to install and get running, but I think I've gotten past the worst part. I had to take a break, but I should be able to finish today.
                    • Patrice Champarou
                      Well... yes, however, I might remind you both (and all) that you have the possibility to make any conversation private when, at some point, it stops including
                      Message 10 of 20 , Sep 26, 2012
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                        Well... yes, however, I might remind you both (and all) that you have the
                        possibility to make any conversation private when, at some point, it stops
                        including information concerning the other 840 subscribers.

                        P.

                        -----Message d'origine-----
                        De : Niku
                        Date : mercredi 26 septembre 2012 18:33
                        À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                        Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research

                        Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address.
                        However, now that you remind me, I'm going to remind him to correct that
                        out-of-date address. Now, I'm setting-up the "Brian" program. It's not easy
                        to install and get running, but I think I've gotten past the worst part. I
                        had to take a break, but I should be able to finish today.
                      • lastofthebarons
                        When I hit reply or even reply all, RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, is the only email address I get, Patrice. However, if others are interested in Brian and
                        Message 11 of 20 , Sep 26, 2012
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                          When I hit reply or even reply all, RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, is the only email address I get, Patrice.

                          However, if others are interested in Brian and considering their interest in RedHotJazz, I think they would be, then the exchange could well be of relevance to them.

                          Brian is an excellent programme, not just for creating a specialist discography but also a discography of your own collection. I would point out that I have no other interest in Brian than as a very satisfied user.

                          As an aside, another programme that members of this group may be interested in learning about, if they don't know it already, is Clickrepair and its companion apps., DeNoise and Equalizer, which do as the names suggest. Further details at http://www.clickrepair.net Same declaration as with Brian.

                          Best wishes,

                          Marcus

                          On 26 Sep 2012, at 20:08, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:

                          > Well... yes, however, I might remind you both (and all) that you have the
                          > possibility to make any conversation private when, at some point, it stops
                          > including information concerning the other 840 subscribers.
                          >
                          > P.
                          >
                          > -----Message d'origine-----
                          > De : Niku
                          > Date : mercredi 26 septembre 2012 18:33
                          > � : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                          > Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research
                          >
                          > Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address.
                          > However, now that you remind me, I'm going to remind him to correct that
                          > out-of-date address. Now, I'm setting-up the "Brian" program. It's not easy
                          > to install and get running, but I think I've gotten past the worst part. I
                          > had to take a break, but I should be able to finish today.
                          >
                          >



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                        • Jack Kirschenbaum
                          Marcus, Thank you for the heads up about Brian. ♫♫♫Enjoy♫♫♫ ♪♪♪♪Jack Kaye♪♪♪♪ ... From: lastofthebarons
                          Message 12 of 20 , Sep 26, 2012
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                            Marcus,
                            Thank you for the heads up about Brian.























                            ♫♫♫Enjoy♫♫♫
                            ♪♪♪♪Jack Kaye♪♪♪♪


                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: "lastofthebarons" <lastofthebarons@...>
                            To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:54:18 PM
                            Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research

                            When I hit reply or even reply all, RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, is the only email address I get, Patrice.

                            However, if others are interested in Brian and considering their interest in RedHotJazz, I think they would be, then the exchange could well be of relevance to them.

                            Brian is an excellent programme, not just for creating a specialist discography but also a discography of your own collection. I would point out that I have no other interest in Brian than as a very satisfied user.

                            As an aside, another programme that members of this group may be interested in learning about, if they don't know it already, is Clickrepair and its companion apps., DeNoise and Equalizer, which do as the names suggest. Further details at http://www.clickrepair.net Same declaration as with Brian.

                            Best wishes,

                            Marcus

                            On 26 Sep 2012, at 20:08, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:

                            > Well... yes, however, I might remind you both (and all) that you have the
                            > possibility to make any conversation private when, at some point, it stops
                            > including information concerning the other 840 subscribers.
                            >
                            > P.
                            >
                            > -----Message d'origine-----
                            > De : Niku
                            > Date : mercredi 26 septembre 2012 18:33
                            > � : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                            > Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research
                            >
                            > Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address.
                            > However, now that you remind me, I'm going to remind him to correct that
                            > out-of-date address. Now, I'm setting-up the "Brian" program. It's not easy
                            > to install and get running, but I think I've gotten past the worst part. I
                            > had to take a break, but I should be able to finish today.
                            >
                            >



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                          • Niku
                            That s what I thought, too, Marcus, but it sounds better coming from you. As to Clickrepair, that certainly is of interest to me, and I m going to be
                            Message 13 of 20 , Sep 26, 2012
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                              That's what I thought, too, Marcus, but it sounds better coming from you. As to "Clickrepair," that certainly is of interest to me, and I'm going to be checking it out as soon as possible. I had heard that"Audacity"was the best for making such repairs, but I'm going to see what "Clickrepair can do. Thanks, again for bringing this to my attention.

                              -------
                              --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, lastofthebarons <lastofthebarons@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > When I hit reply or even reply all, RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, is the only email address I get, Patrice.
                              >
                              > However, if others are interested in Brian and considering their interest in RedHotJazz, I think they would be, then the exchange could well be of relevance to them.
                              >
                              > Brian is an excellent programme, not just for creating a specialist discography but also a discography of your own collection. I would point out that I have no other interest in Brian than as a very satisfied user.
                              >
                              > As an aside, another programme that members of this group may be interested in learning about, if they don't know it already, is Clickrepair and its companion apps., DeNoise and Equalizer, which do as the names suggest. Further details at http://www.clickrepair.net Same declaration as with Brian.
                              >
                              > Best wishes,
                              >
                              > Marcus
                              >
                              > On 26 Sep 2012, at 20:08, Patrice Champarou <patrice.champarou@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > > Well... yes, however, I might remind you both (and all) that you have the
                              > > possibility to make any conversation private when, at some point, it stops
                              > > including information concerning the other 840 subscribers.
                              > >
                              > > P.
                              > >
                              > > -----Message d'origine-----
                              > > De : Niku
                              > > Date : mercredi 26 septembre 2012 18:33
                              > > À : RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Record Research
                              > >
                              > > Thanks, but I finally managed to contact Steve with another address.
                              > > However, now that you remind me, I'm going to remind him to correct that
                              > > out-of-date address. Now, I'm setting-up the "Brian" program. It's not easy
                              > > to install and get running, but I think I've gotten past the worst part. I
                              > > had to take a break, but I should be able to finish today.
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              >
                            • lakehead_guy@tbaytel.net
                              If you checkout http://www.giantvinyl.gemm.com you will find a website that is easy to use rather than going to gemm.com and then the giantvinyl catalogue.
                              Message 14 of 20 , Sep 27, 2012
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                                If you checkout http://www.giantvinyl.gemm.com you will find a website that is easy to use rather than going to gemm.com and then the giantvinyl catalogue. GEMM allows you to build and use your own website and list records for sale for FREE. The listings last as long as you want or until they are sold. If you’re looking for jazz you can search many ways. Drop me an email with your want list, and I’ll check my collection LPs, 45s, and 78s (some from the teens, 20s and 30s). Thank you for your time

                                From: Patrice Champarou
                                Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:52 AM
                                To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re : [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research




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                                De : mailto:lakehead_guy%40tbaytel.net
                                Date : mardi 25 septembre 2012 14:57
                                À : mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com
                                Objet : Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: Record Research

                                > Checkout this website for jazz music
                                > http://archive.org/search.php?query=jazz%20AND%20collection%3Aaudio_music

                                Yes, of course... maybe I also failed to recall
                                http://victor.library.ucsb.edu/ which includes a lot of soundfiles -
                                streamed after an agreement with the Library of Congress Jukebox
                                http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/ (a better starting point than a canceled php
                                request).

                                > myweb site is giantvinyl.gemm.com for jazz & other genre of vinyl

                                I suppose you mean http://www.gemm.com/catalog/GIANTVINYL/ ?

                                For some reason, my second attempt to install Brian worked, Marc...
                                I always end up forcing Windows to do what I want, problems only arise when
                                it does the unexpected !! But I chose it intendedly, after sadly leaving
                                the Amiga community, so as to start understanding everyone else's troubles
                                ;).

                                Patrice




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