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Re: [RedHotJazz]Kid Ory on Oliver sides

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  • Howard Rye
    Let’s be clear that I was merely suggesting that this would have to be the fallback position of people who wanted to claim he was not on the sides. I don’t
    Message 1 of 17 , Mar 9, 2012
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      Let�s be clear that I was merely suggesting that this would have to be the
      fallback position of people who wanted to claim he was not on the sides. I
      don�t think they have another one.


      on 08/03/2012 16:06, John McCusker at ory1886@... wrote:

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      > Ory claim unearned glory? Perhaps about somethings but I have a 1940 interview
      > with him where he goes out of his way to point out sides he wasn't on.
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      > From: Howard Rye <howard@...
      > <mailto:howard%40coppermill.demon.co.uk> >
      > To: red hot jazz <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
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      > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:03 AM
      > Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] King Oliver's Dixie Syncopators/George Filh�
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      > Like it or not, Ory was identified on these sessions by Luis Russell, who
      > was there, and who was played the records by Walt Allen, a man not given to
      > misrepresenting what he had done to validate pet theories.
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      > Ory identified himself on Deep Henderson and Jackass when played them (I
      > can�t see any sign he was played Too Bad and Snag It and I wonder why not).
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      > I think it will take more compelling evidence than what anybody thinks they
      > hear to set this aside. This is a situation in which speculation is not so
      > much fun as a complete waste of time. I suppose one can argue that Ory might
      > have misidentified himself to claim some glory, but it�s hard to see what
      > Russell�s motives might have been.
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      Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
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