Re: [RedHotJazz] Date of First String Bass
- Pops Foster joint L. Russel before 1935, recorded with him since 1929
Le 26 juil. 10 � 00:55, PETER GERLER a �crit :
> Hey Gerry,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> You mean the first time anyone ever recorded with a big bass? Good
> question! Maybe check out James Reese Europe or Wilbur Sweatman--
> for pre-jazz. (Don't know about classical). As far as when it
> became dominant, a possible point to consider is when Pops Foster
> joined the Luis Russell band around 1935, changing the whole nature
> of their rhythm. This was 3-4 years before Jimmy Blanton joined
> I'll be curious to see what you find!
> On Jul 25, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Gerry wrote:
> > I'm looking for a "first date ever" for playing acoustic bass.
> But a bigger question is when did effectively come to dominate?
> > I'm having a heck of a time finding either date readily. Any aid
> > -- Gerry
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>Don't forget, Gerry, that many bands had tuba and string bass side by side
> So now limiting the discussion to "big band/large ensemble" and avoiding
> string-bands, quartets/quintets: I had always assume that this
> setting--for recordings--generally had tuba. As such I was looking for who
> began using string bass as a replacement for tuba, if it concentrated in
> one or a few individual groups.
> -- Gerry
at the same time - this is readily apparent in many of the Vitaphone shorts
of 1927-30 - often, a band also had a banjoist and a guitarist playing
simultaneously, too. There are numerous records - like Gus Arnheim's "One
More Time," from 1931, where tuba is in use on the first half of the disc,
with a switchover to string bass for the "hot" final choruses to add an
extra measure of excitement to the performance.